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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TimF who wrote (15660)9/4/2001 7:35:11 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
I "society" was you, Neo, and me, and the two of you voted to take all my stuff it would still be unjust even if I also get a vote.

I live in a condo. I pay a condo fee that covers things like water, pool, tennis courts, landscaping. A condo fee is analogous to a tax--owners chip in to pay community costs. The fee in my community varies based on the original selling price of the units. It doesn't matter if one family has five people using the pool and another has only one or none. It doesn't matter how much water you use. It's not metered. Bigger families probably use more water, but equal units pay the same condo fee regardless of the number of occupants.

Everyone knows their fee amount when they buy in. Every unit gets to vote for changes, although the votes are also apportioned based on the same ratio as the condo fee rather than one vote per unit. Is that unfair? Is that unjust? Some might say so. But it's legal. And the condo association can by law take action to collect fees if you don't pay for one reason or another. That's not extortion any more than demanding tax payment is extortion. Because it's legal. And it was established by due process. And that's as good as it gets in this world.

This is just how we do things. We do it that way in the condo. We do it that way in the country. We use politics to get change if we feel strongly enough about it. Or we bail out and go somewhere more to our liking.

Karen



To: TimF who wrote (15660)9/4/2001 9:03:25 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
Just or unjust, how can you run a society without taxes? How will the cops to save that little old lady from being raped be paid? And they must be paid; they have bills of their own to meet.

If the answer is "there must be taxes", then those taxes must be collected. If someone refuses to pay, what then?

Taxes are the price we pay for civilization.