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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (7846)	9/4/2001 10:59:47 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

It was a reference to the shotgun blast. But I'm sure you knew that... :p

To: Greg or e who wrote (7846)	9/5/2001 2:14:45 AM
From: cosmicforce	Respond to of 28931

<I would beg to differ that God does not give a hoey about us. > Er, what I said was in any measurable way. My position, family and station are acts of random birth and circumstance, not the products of faith. I'm not better off or healthier because my parents were or weren't pious. So, in no measurable way do the people who believe something derive material or corporeal benefit. Seems like a bad deal. If I was offering a cure to your disease but just as many people (or more!) died on my therapy as the placebo, why would you waste your time with it? You know I'm spiritual, but I don't imagine that the world of the spirit is that concerned with the mundane issue of whether our crops sprout or not, whether I personally starve, or whether you're pottery cracks in the kiln. I won't say that our prayers and meditations have no effect; I just think many people have attributed it to the wrong mechanism and expect that all random acts have meaning we can deduce. Random, is by definition, those things that occur by mechanisms we don't understand. We can seek meaning there, but it is, ultimately, unknowable until we can test it. There is belief by some that the lack of piety is the cause of ills bestowed upon those getting the short end of the stick in this game. I think of prayer like driving. Prayer might steer you in some direction, but really won't prevent a flat tire. It also won't stop a bullet. If it helps you to call this God and Jesus, fine. Many people get the same thing from reading tea leaves or chanting while burning incense. Whatever metaphor works for you as long as it produces the results you want. Remember those NICE parts of the Bible though. As for me, I want to leave the heavy handed OT stuff on the outskirts of town.