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To: Win Smith who wrote (142835)9/5/2001 5:56:13 PM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 186894
 
I used to take SPEC seriously, until Intel demonstrated how a compiler that was useless for anything else could make a total joke of it.

This whine is very useful for a humiliated amdroid. Despite the total lack of truth it is still comforting and the only retort available short of admitting the truth.

Maybe you'll like this quote from a post earlier today:

"I've been fairly amazed by the attention that our little project[Povray Recompilation Experiment] has received. The results are fairly clear: all modern x86 CPUs gain a large amount from the use of a good optimizing compiler -- Intel's C compiler. The Pentium4 in particular, gains proportionally more from the recompile effort than others.

"After the initial publication of the binary and results, I was contacted by an Intel Engineer by the name of Eric Moore, who had a variety of suggestions for improving the compiled performance of povray with the P4. Doing so produced a binary that is 27% faster than the previously optimized version on my Athlon alone, and likely gains even better results on the P4."



To: Win Smith who wrote (142835)9/5/2001 6:41:18 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Hey Winnie the Whiner, I found a couple more interesting things about that Intel C++ compile you claim is useless for anything other than SPEC:

developer.intel.com

"We were very impressed with the huge performance gains when we switched from our compiler to the Intel C++ Compiler"

And this one:

developer.intel.com

"A less obvious, but very important advantage of the Intel C++ Compiler, is its almost complete ANSI C++ compliance, added Dr. Zuiderveld. "We are using templates quite a lot; Intel's product happily compiles our code, as well as external C++ libraries relying on advanced template support."



To: Win Smith who wrote (142835)9/5/2001 8:17:09 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Win, <I used to take SPEC seriously, until Intel demonstrated how a compiler that was useless for anything else could make a total joke of it.>

So what's your favorite benchmark? At least Pete has his SciMark and Dan has his PiMark, two benchmarks which just happen to favor the Athlon.

Tenchusatsu

P.S. - Personally, I like QuakeMarks and 3DRenderMarks (3D Studio MAX, Maya, etc.) because I'm a gamer and I have a slight interest in 3D rendering.