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To: Ilaine who wrote (8245)9/5/2001 10:40:13 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Between La Belle Acadie, the Ojibwa Indians, some ancestors that escaped the Irish Potato Famine by moving to Nova Scotia, and a voyageur or two, I'm fairly well connected to Canada by heritage

Hi CB,
All well and good, and I've got le français, and the Irish and of course the Chinese. But that is history. I have Chinese customs, French habits and even some throwback peculiar verbiage from my great, great grandmother Dougherty. It has all shaped me but in the immortal words of that great American sailor, Popeye I yam what I yam and that's Canadian (and cute and cuddly to boot).

Culture isn't genetic though, so all that interesting lineage you possess doesn't really amount to a hill of beans in that sense, any more than mine does for me. Culture is acquired through osmosis, you live it, it grows on and in you. You can study other cultures all you want and even live in them but past a certain point in ones life it is too late. You will always be an outsider, you won''t get the nuances, the subtleties. Much of the French humour in Québec for example would go right over your head even if well translated and you were up on current events there etc. Heck even French speaking Anglophones in Québec don't often get it. I don't always get it.

I'm fairly well connected to Canada by heritage
There we have it. The government talks culture, blah! they should be talking heritage. Heritage remembered and not forgotten influences culture. Heritage studied years later is nothing more than an anecdote.

Seems in all the old American war movies the Canadians had Brit accents and didn't do much......like the new character on each episode of the original Star Trek.... We get much of our culture, vulgate edition at least through osmosis of American media presentations. WWII history from Sgt. Saunders and 'Combat!' LOL.

Joni Mitchell and Neil Young come to mind.
Like them both (especially Neil) and yes they are Canadian, but so what ? It's not anything 'Canadian' that made them particularly successful. More likely giving their broader audience something they liked is what did it. I doubt many Americans learned much about Canada through their music. How have Alan Thicke or Alex Trebec or Paul Schaeffer contributed to the broader understanding of Canadians by American or by Canadians for that matter. Heck, even Mary Pickford, America's Sweetheart was born in Canada.

I like Springsteen, and Dylan and the Stones and many others and never considered them in the context of Canadian, American or whatever myself, and I think they are poor examples of specifically any culture in the sense implied. It was the angst of youth etc. a cross cultural bond if you will that made them popular.

Springsteen
Boring stories of glory days
Take a good look around, this is your hometown
It ain't no sin to be glad you're alive
What I'm not I have learned, What I've got I have earned
Here stuff this in your pocket, it'll look like your carrying a friend.
and a freight train running through the middle of my head Only you can cool my desire

Jagger/Richards
Hours are like diamonds, Time waits for no one
I watched with glee while your kings and queens fought for ten decades, for the gods they made.
He can't be a man cause he doesn't smoke the same cigarettes as me, I can't get no..
Both flowers and my love, never to turn back.

Pink Floyd
Ticking away the moments that make up the dull day
No dark sarcasm in the classroom, Teachers leave the kids alone

Simon and Garfunkel
I am an island, I am a rock, and a rock feels no pain
And he carries the reminders of every glove that cut him til he cried out in his anger and his shame
People speaking without talking, people hearing without listening.

Cat Stevens
I don't want to work away, doing what they all say.
And if I find my hard headed woman, I know the rest of my life will be blessed ,yes.

I could go on and on but I've hurt my wrist a few days back and I'm stressing it here. Point is various artists, various countries. This stuff is generational and has little to do with culture in the sense that the goverment is speaking.

regards
Kastel
a cute and cuddly Canadian with very sore wrist gotta stop now.
Sorry for the disjointed rambling :o)

PS A little Canadian Content LOL

I'm bud the Spud from the bright red mud, going down the highway rolling.,
The Spuds are big on the back of Bud's rig, they're from Prince Edward Island - Stompin' Tom Connors

The girls are out to bingo, and the boys are gettin' stinko,
and we'll think no more of Inco on a Sudbury Saturday Night - Stompin' Tom Connors

Je reviendrai à Montréal
Dans un grand boeing blue de mer
J'ai besoin de revoir l'hiver
Et ses aurores boréales - Robert Charlebois