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To: Ilaine who wrote (8323)	9/6/2001 6:17:40 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

CB, it was you who whined about lawyer jargon not being universally admired by the heathens and wondered why. I kindly took the trouble to explain to you why that was so. As with all professionals, I appreciate and admire high quality ethical people with morals who do a good job. There are lawyers and judges like that [I suppose]. You have the attitude of lawyers who people do not like. CB, you see it as a 'besting'. I was trying to enlighten you. Try to forget your adversarial legal attitude. It's not a court room. There are no more dollars for stringing out the argument and refusing to accept you had something wrong. SI is about understanding, learning, thinking and philanthropic investment. Some use it as a forum to show how stupid, moronic, f'ing amateur, pathetic, etc other people are [your words to others who tried to explain orbits to you]. Give it away CB! Try playing nice. Life is fun. Your metaphysical certitude is precisely why Globalstar failed. They saw different ideas as something to be 'bested' rather than understood and integrated if correct. They KNEW they were right. Others were 7 Minute investors who could go buy Wheaties. You made some ignorant assertions about Globalstar. I explained why you were wrong. You can't seem to accept your lack of understanding. You can think you 'won' an argument. Engineers know that you 'winning' an argument won't change the orbital character of a satellite or the reasons why Globalstar failed, both of which you either still don't understand or are lying about. My guess is that you don't really understand it because I think you probably try to be honest. Estoppel means that you can't claim that you had it right for the wrong reasons [the extra fuel usage in LEOs per kilogram] and now claim that you 'bested Mq in an argument']. Ordinary people don't say you are estopped; they say you are full of it. Or, as LLCF says, I should fagggaddaboutit... I notice you didn't answer the testing question I gave you about the price. Remember? I took the trouble to answer your questions when you were trying to understand orbital dynamics so that you could pin down exactly what my position was. Estopping now, Mqurice

To: Ilaine who wrote (8323)	9/6/2001 6:28:40 PM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Very unsporting to indirectly taunt Maurice after capitulating: "..that's my story and I'm sticking to it.." are your words, if I recall correctly. You said you had other things to do, like watching paint dry or something. Maurice bested you, dear. You resorted to ad hominen garbage, calling him a pathetic lying loser, a clear indication of a lost debate. Foot stomping and pouting do not a win make. Hell, I think you later basically admitted that he was right. Although Maurice might be needling you, I don't think he has you in mind when he lawyer bashes. If he does, it's fair turnaround for the abuse you heaped on him. I'm a lawyer, too, and agree with much of what he says about our species. I'm certainly not offended.

To: Ilaine who wrote (8323)	9/6/2001 6:48:08 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Respond to of 74559

Literary journals are not so uniformly bad. I take a certain personal relish in a good pointless essay myself. It's mostly some of the social "sciences" that really have very little to do with science, as yet, frantically trying to dress themselves up as such with few other tools or means than inventing new verbage, that get my dander up. Aside from that, I personally think a little lawyer-bashing is never out of place <vbg>. It's like sports or music or film: one of those things that brings otherwise diverse people together in mutual and heartfelt appreciation.