To: LV who wrote (3237 ) 9/7/2001 11:30:25 AM From: GUSTAVE JAEGER Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 23908 Re: But if you think that you in Europe are safe from Syrias and Irans of the world, you are sadly mistaken. First, Europeans don't occupy and colonize Arab territories (See how the French pulled out of Algeria in 1962)... Quite the contrary: more and more Muslim immigrants settle in European cities every year. If anything, it's not a nuclear or biochemical bomb that Arabs have dropped on Europe, it's the so-called demographic bomb! Hence I don't think that Iranians or Iraqis will ever blow up European cities when half of their inhabitants belong to Islam... M'Slama, Gus. Footnote:WILL FRANCE REMAIN FRENCH? Nor is this Muslim aspiration a pipedream. Jean-Claude Chesnais, one of France's leading demographers at the National Institute for the Study of Demographics (Ined), is very blunt: Migration trends are to intensify over the coming thirty years... . All developed countries will be affected, including East Asia and the former communist countries. There will be an overall mingling of cultures and civilisations that may lead, as far as France is concerned, to the emergence of a predominantly African population and to rapid Islamization." Today, France's immigrant population amounts to 15 percent of the total population, with lower figures for the Muslim community: hardly a tidal wave. It is also true that France remains an overwhelmingly Roman Catholic country, with a Catholic baptism rate of 84 percent in 1990. In addition, France is one of the oldest, if not the oldest, nation-states in Europe, and it can claim one of the world's great and most attractive cultures; these attributes have helped it absorb and thoroughly assimilate large numbers of immigrants during the past century or so, including Belgians and Germans, Italians and Spaniards, Poles and Portuguese, Jews from Eastern Europe and North Africa, Armenians, and West Indian blacks, plus Asians from Indochina, China, and India. Why should not the same pattern prevail throughout the twenty-first century as well? Still, the prospect of the French's converting en masse to Islam and France's turning into an Afro-Mediterranean country is not to be dismissed. Mass conversion and ethnic transition are not rare in history. The Roman Empire, one the world's most formidable and enduring polities, was transformed in the half-millennium between the first century B.C.E. and the fourth century C.E., as ethnic Romans were replaced by neo-Romans of many ethnic or racial stocks and various parlances, from proto-Berber North Africans and Arabs to Slavs and Germans, not to speak of Greeks and Hellenized easterners. Simultaneously, while Christianity abruptly replaced the sophisticated pagan culture of Rome. [...]meforum.org