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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TigerPaw who wrote (7869)9/7/2001 11:56:43 AM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931
 
<a computer model of the weather >

I guess my main disagreement was the characterization of the random number function as being chaotic. Randomness is only one aspect of chaotic systems. Your weather example is done through FEM. The higher orders in the differential is what gives rise to the unpredictability in these systems. These are calculated deterministically (each element of the FEM is literally calculated to a single very accurate answer). Between cells, there is only one answer and you could calculate the answer to any precision you want. In toto, though, the answer becomes non-deterministic because of the form of the equations and the relationship between the deterministic answers in individual cells.

Even simple systems like the "3 body problem" of classical physics become unpredictable outside of small areas of forecast (both forward and backward in time). In the "real world", QM provides the same effect as truncation effects in digital FEM. You just never get to know what pushes you one way or another in the solution - it could be in the gazillionth decimal place from multiple sources. The fact is that SOMETHING may, you just don't get to know about it or predict it. You can however, assign the several outcomes a nearly equal probability, which supports my view of consciousness being like a surfer on these waves possible outcomes.

That is frustrating, isn't it?