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To: chalu2 who wrote (3245)	9/8/2001 4:48:43 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Re: European Christians will rebel and...can you say "Third World War"? Europe's Christians are not that hot-tempered... Keep in mind that Europe has become a post-religious civilization. Less and less people give a hoot about what the Church wants them to do. Christianity is merely an ethical backdrop, a frame of common values and festivities (Xmas, Easter, etc), nothing more. As for the tension between Islam and Christianism, if it ever climaxes into violent conflicts then I'm afraid it'll remain a LOCAL crisis --as it already is in the Balkans... Remember that the past two World Wars turned global because most of Africa and Asia were subservient European colonies. Nowadays, I don't think that China, or India, or South Africa, or Japan, or Brazil could be dragged into yet another European mess... Yet, the challenge for Neo-Fascist Europe will be to accomodate itself to Islam's encroachment on its post-Christian constituency. Historically, fascism has proved unable to cope with minorities, freedom of religion, etc. Hence the likely troubles ahead. Gus.

To: chalu2 who wrote (3245)	9/8/2001 5:31:39 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Talking of bigotry and curtailment: Italy's Muslims in uphill battle for recognition Xenophobic rightists playing up fears that immigrant Muslims will fast alter Italy's national identity By Gunther Kern - ROME middle-east-online.com

To: chalu2 who wrote (3245)	9/8/2001 6:16:45 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 23908

Follow-up.... Biffi claims that immigration of Muslims will fast alter Italy's national identity, a fear apparently shared by more than a third of his compatriots. He says that preference should rather be given to Catholic immigrants, possibly from the Philippines or Latin America. But his rather strong admonitions are going down badly even with Catholic help groups who regret his closeness to xenophobic rightists in Italy and other European countries. With more than 500,000 Muslims and Islam now replacing Christian denominations other than Catholicism as Italy's second spiritual creed, the construction of more mosques and Islamic cultural centers is fast becoming a highly charged issue as some politicians turn up their rhetoric ahead of crucial legislative elections. There are three mosques in Italy, one in Milan, one in Rome, which is Europe's largest, and one in Catania, Sicily, and some 100 houses of worship have sprung up throughout the country, more than 200 if those in apartments, workshops or rather more unfit structures are included in the count. But while individual Muslims may choose whether to keep a low profile or not, as a group they have undoubtedly become more visible as the media jump on controversial issues, like polygamy, mixed marriages, or whether Muslim women can be allowed to wear a veil in pictures carried by official documents. The prospect that Muslims would be praying at the heart of Roman Catholicism, even in a more nondescript neighborhood away from the historic center, caused what Redouane diplomatically called "some legitimate reservations." The mysterious death of Edorado (Mahdi) Agnelli () last November is also believed to have taken place because of his conversion to Islam. Years ago, Edorado had embraced Islam after comprehensive study of the Qoran and then accepted the Shia school of Islam, selecting the name Mahdi. He was the owner of a group of Fiat factories and different press institutes and was a permanent senator in Italy's senate. The association rules out the possibility of Mahdi's suicide and believes that the enemies of Islam might have murdered him. middleeastwire.com () The Agnellis are Italy's Ford dynasty... Get the picture?