To: Mitch Blevins who wrote (7881 ) 9/7/2001 6:46:06 PM From: cosmicforce Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931 They may have been the ones debunked. I wouldn't put much stock in it, personally, one way or another. I found the following on the Web, but I wouldn't consider it authoritative. My brother is a cardiac nurse, and he'd related some stuff from the Nursing Journals. Other than that, I have no objection to people praying or not praying. Since I think visualization is key to action, prayer may just be ritualized thought. In 1998, Dr. Elisabeth Targ and her colleagues at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco, conducted a controlled, double-blind study of the effects of "distant healing," or prayer, on patients with advanced AIDS. Those patients receiving prayer survived in greater numbers, got sick less often, and recovered faster than those not receiving prayer. Prayer, in this study, looked like a medical breakthrough. In 1988, Dr. Randolph Byrd conducted a similar study at San Francisco General Hospital involving patients with heart attack or severe chest pain. He found that patients receiving prayer did much better clinically than those who did not. Currently, Dr. Mitchell Krucoff at Duke University Medical Center in Durham, North Carolina, is studying the effects of prayer on patients undergoing cardiac procedures such as catheterization and angioplasty. Patients receiving prayer have up to 100% fewer side effects from these procedures than people not prayed for. These are impressive double-blind studies, meaning that no one knows who is receiving prayer and who isn't. This eliminates or at least reduces the placebo effect, which is the power of suggestion or positive thinking