To: Eric L who wrote (15060 ) 9/10/2001 6:48:41 PM From: 49thMIMOMander Respond to of 34857 Yes, GPRS, send and receive, is a huge issue for some who cannot keep them apart, again and again, quack after quack. Especially those Q-quacks who know how easy it is to turn off a QCDMA power hungry transmitter, but also how tough it is to get it back up, all that power control needed so that it won't make more damage than cocktail party small talk, until accepted as someone to talk to. (the real quack of the quack-pain) basics: -receiving, downloading is cheap on the battery -transmitting, uploading, drains the battery. Only Quacks in the back of the steaming Limo need to send living pictures of what they are doing, draining the battery of both the handset and the Limo. Or somebody with an urge to make his communicator into a mobile server, where the whole world can get xxx-rated pictures of the backseat of the Limo. The rest of the world concentrates on downloading information, with very little drain on the battery, just a little gentle push on an enter key now and then. Compare standby times, the handset still checking for an incoming call or SMS message every 1-2 second. Compare talktime, when the same battery is drained, pushed into the antenna, out into the ether, in maybe a 100th of the time (0.1-2W vs 1-10mW) (many moons ago the ratio was closer to 1:2, not anymore) That is, the fundamental (that behind) thing the quacks have been searching a solution for since their very first quack. While WCDMA can switch to fantastic GSM/GPRS with no problems... The reason the quacks are doing all the quacking, and, for example, Vodafone insists on GSM/WCDMA handsets, and Nokia doesn't even plan for anything else attached to a battery. Ilmarinen Non-battery applications are also interesting, like the battery carrying camera crew following F1, and the camera inside. It is truly sad when 75% of the juice is lost, biased into the Q-underwonderware, and one cannot switch to TDMA, also almost as bad, 8-psk and all. And WCDMA/EDGE/GPRS/GSM can select freely what to do, in all circumstances. (some which are still too early to discuss)