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To: Thomas M. who wrote (3350)	9/10/2001 6:35:31 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Intrigues of the church? I find Voltair readings and even Alexander Duma novels much more fascinating..<gg> On a serious note Church is always at the forefront of the "current thinking", Inquisition including PS will look for the link, though, as requested

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3350)	9/10/2001 6:38:03 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

First glance.. guardian.co.uk Investigation into church's role dropped after it refuses to grant access to archives.. However, others suspected access was blocked by a cabal led by the Vatican's secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano. "If you open up Pius, you set a precedent for a whole range of other investigations - for example the church's relationship with Latin American dictators... "Don't forget that Sodano was the papal nuncio during the Pinochet regime," said Alberto Melloni, a historian of the church

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3350)	9/10/2001 6:39:17 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Second look flamemag.dircon.co.uk During the Second World War in Yugoslavia, Catholic priests and Muslim clerics were willing accomplices in the genocide of the nations Serbian, Jewish and Roma population. From 1941 until 1945, the Nazi-installed regime of Ante Pavelic in Croatia carried out some of the most horrific crimes of the Holocaust... Furthermore, as Cornwell notes, Pius XII had not only "warmly endorsed" Croat nationalism, he had, before the war in November 1939, described the Croats in a speech as an "the outpost of Christianity" of whom "the hope of a better future seems to be smiling on you". Pavelic and Pope Puis XII "frequently exchanged cordial telegrams" according to Dedijer, one on New Year's Day 1943, saw the Pope give his blessing to Pavelic: Everything that you have expressed so warmly in your name and in the name of the Croatian Catholics we return gracefully and give you and the whole Croatian people our apostolic blessing (Dedijer, p 115).

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3350)	9/10/2001 6:42:55 PM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 23908

Final look... religioustolerance.org In 2000-OCT, the panel issued a preliminary report, "The Vatican and the Holocaust," asking 47 questions which can only be answered by consulting the unpublished Vatican files from the World War II era. They unanimously asked for access to the records. In 2001-JUN, the Vatican refused. Cardinal Walter Kasper wrote "in a letter to the group that they would be welcome to speak with the scholar who is heading the campaign for the beatification of Pius, but that post-1923 Vatican archives were not available for 'technical reasons.' " It seems that the Vatican archives are only catalogued up to 1923. Only two staff members are actively involved in the activity. The panel has decided to temporarily abandon their work, without issuing a final report. Dr. Efraim Zuroff, director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem, said: "We're very disappointed ... but I can't say I'm surprised...There is no transparency in the Vatican and as a result we don't know the answers to a lot of serious questions. [Vatican knowledge about the Holocaust] was one of the most important outstanding questions that has not been clarified by historians." 10 Rev. Peter Gumpel, is a German Jesuit who is assembling documentation to support the expected beatification of Pope Pius XII. On 2001-AUG-7, he issued a statement accusing some of the Jewish historians on the Holocaust Commission of "clearly incorrect behavior," having helped mount a "slanderous campaign" against the Roman Catholic Church. 15 He said that he had met with the group and had answered some of their questions, and offered to answer the rest at a later time. He wrote that "some Jewish members in the group had systematically affirmed that they never received answers to their questions." He accused them of having "publicly spread the suspicion" that the Vatican was trying to hide documents "that in their judgment could be compromising." There may be a misunderstanding between Gumpel and the Commission. Expert historians require documentary support, not just the opinion of one individual. So, answers by Rev. Gumpel would be insufficient without hard evidence to back them up.