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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lola who wrote (114)9/11/2001 8:13:59 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Respond to of 27666
 
Here is an article about another country Bush may be willing to obliterate. I have put in bold the parts which describes the sentiment of regular people against us. I am doing this for educational purposes only, when faced with adversity and difficult choices in battle, you must get into the pshyche of the enemy. I do not support what these guys are saying in any way, shape or form. But they are saying it, this is how they feel, in order to go forward, we must understand why and take effective action, blindly boming a few cities is pointless IMHO.

Wednesday, September 12 2:50 AM SGT

"Bullseye," say Egyptians as they celebrate anti-US attacks
CAIRO, Sept 11 (AFP) -

Egyptian students, taxi drivers and shopkeepers crowded round television sets stacked
up in electrical store windows in downtown Cairo Tuesday evening, celebrating a string
of elaborate attacks on New York and Washington.

"Bullseye," commented two taxi drivers as they watched footage of the twin towers of
the World Trade Center in New York shrouded in plumes of smoke after two
presumably hijacked planes slammed into them earlier in the day.

Another Egyptian man, Gawish Abdel Karim, told AFP he was pleased with the wave
of violence in which another plane crashed into the Pentagon in Washington, the heart of
the US defence establishment.

"Nice work," said Abdel Karim, who drives a car for an Asian embassy.

"The Americans have forgotten that God exists. They have us by the throat and now they
find themselves in a science fiction film scenario, but this time Rambo's not there to save
the White House."


Anti-US sentiment has mushroomed on the streets of Egypt and other Arab countries
over its widely-perceived support for Israel over the Palestinians in the past 11 months
of violence in the Middle East.


As with other US facilities around the world, workers at US government offices and
Egyptian citizens were taking security precautions, with only "non-essential" operations
set to be covered on Wednesday.

However, US officials said there had been no credible or specific threat against US
citizens or interests here.

Abdel Karim hailed the attacks as "the best thing that's happened since the October
War,"
referring to the October 1973 Arab-Israeli war when Egyptian forces made a
surprise attack on the Israeli army across the Suez Canal.

"Mabruk! Mabruk! (congratulations)", shouted a crowd of people huddled round the
shop window.

Egypt, considered one of the "moderate" countries in the Middle East, is one of the
United States' strongest allies in the region
, being the first Arab country to sign a peace
treaty with Israel in 1979.

But people on the streets do not necessarily see themselves as US allies.

"The Americans are cowards. They use other countries to hit us. They don't have the
courage to meet us face to face," said Khalil Matar, 43, who works in a state-run soap
factory. "The myth of the indestructible United States has gone up in smoke."


Polytechnic student Amira Ryad also vented her anger.

"We saw the tower crash down," she said, referring to one of the two towers of the
World Trade Center, both of which were razed by the attack.

"I only wish (US President) George Bush and his dear little baby (Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel) Sharon had been buried in there too,
" she added.

Fellow student Murad went as far as speculating that the United States was behind the
attacks, "to find an excuse for the National Missile Defence system" that Bush wants to
deploy to protect the United States from so-called rogue states, despite widespread
global opposition.


"Those people are capable of killing their own people to prove they're right," he said.

Egyptian President Hosni "Mubarak should know that the people can no longer be
humiliated, but of course he'll never declare war" on Israel, the student said.


Another taxi driver said he was going to make special prayers to thank him for the
attacks against the US.

asia.dailynews.yahoo.com.



To: Lola who wrote (114)9/11/2001 8:21:41 PM
From: George Papadopoulos  Respond to of 27666
 
>Your logic assumes your enemy is your equal.They are not equal to the United States and all of it's supporters ...

My logic assumes that since this enemy can pull of such a horrific coordinated attack we must take notice and try to get to the root causes of why this enemy is acting this way. All for protecting our people's right to leave peacefuly and securely in our own land for crying out loud. So if we bomb a couple of cities off the face of earth we show that we are greater than the enemy, hooray.

>they are more arrogant than they are powerful ...

Lot of people around the world think that we Americans are indeed incredibly arrogant already. What these terrorists pulled off is indeed arrogant and powerful at the same time. They scared us and hit the WTC and Pentagon, still can not comprehend this, it's like a bad movie and waiting for the intermission or something.

>When you have the upper hand you show it ... especially when someone attacks you in this way ... there is only one right move for America and it's allies.

Did you see the movie Deterrence, it is a great movie and it may come to that I am afraid.



To: Lola who wrote (114)9/12/2001 12:43:13 AM
From: Davy Crockett  Respond to of 27666
 
AMEN to that...