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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (76138)	9/12/2001 6:42:03 AM
From: Enigma	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116815

George - the article expresses a larger truth but I can see why you have decided to make it your last political post. And I can see Tom's view and I have the deepest respect and sympathy for him, and the tragedy is so deep, and I can already envision a memorial park on the site of the buildings that were destroyed and the ones that will be demolished. And the damage is devastating in every way. And in Canada Americans have the best neighbour, even though we Canadians tend to define themselves by our difference/s, a visitor from outer space might be forgiven for not noticing much difference at all. We have friends, children and grandchildren working and living in the States, we have the same telephone system, the same school buses, the same traffic signs, the same sports, mostly the same TV shows, we travel back and forth. But those of us here, whether Americans or Canadians who look beyond this tragedy are surely looking at a situation where America must pause and look at its foreign policy position. It is a participant in a war - a war which can't be won. A war which has come, for the very first time, to its own shores. The rhetoric about the Middle East has changed. Even Clinton, who spent a great deal of energy in the so called peace process referred, in Egypt, to 'The Territories' NOT to the OCCUPIED Territories. He in effect seemed to legitimise the occupation of the territories, and in essence offered the Palestinians no hope whatsoever. They have no hope. How could Arafat accept that and remain a leader of his people? This is a treadmill which America must somehow get off, far far more important than spending billions on Star Wars or Son of Star Wars? Israel has to be defended, because it is surrounded by enemies and it is in many ways the child of the West and its conscience, but there has to be a genuine peace. Many Israeli commentators seem to acknowledge that in the end they will only be left with the 1967 borders - and every time I hear it I can't see how it's possible, but between then and now how much bloodshed there and here?

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (76138)	9/12/2001 8:07:54 AM
From: IngotWeTrust	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 116815

George Cole: you Retired, Islamic Loving, America residing, CAPITALISTIC Fat Cat, are beneath contempt. As one of the wealthy, WEALTHY retired benefactors of the American capitalistic system, containing all your years at the helm of managing humongous sums of invested resources of others as a "professional money manager," YOU, GEO. COLE have indeed showed your Islamic soft underbelly to this GPM board and it will NOT be forgotten from yesterday forward. Every post you pen from yesterday forward, whether "political or not" will be dripping with the blood of the innocent in NY city and in the verdant hills of Pennsylvania and pentagonal rings of Virginia. NO more will you be able to hide behind your Islamic loving and defending particular brand of logic, monied savvy, and contemptous cynicism. Sure, you live here within our borders, altho' you are invited to leave and go back to your Islamic, American hating historical roots. May I personally buy you a plane ticket to Kabul, Afghanistan? Why you think this forum should be your personal forum practicing YOUR freedom of expression about all the logical and political reasons for Islamic hatred for American way of life, is totally beyond comprehension. If this is how you love and care for grieving people, then SHUT THE HELL UP, you bastard. Have you no respect for the thousands and thousands of instantly killed AMERICAN's some of whom, are invariably the very people whose money portfolio you managed prior to your retirement to the fat cat cushy life you enjoy??. YOU should have been in the building when the planes hit. Bet you would be singing a different tune if it had been you pentrated by airborne bomb shrapnel. SPARE THIS THREAD OF YOUR VERSION OF GOLD ANALYSIS. Go back under whatever rock you crawled from under. AND TAKE YOUR GODDAMNED LEASE RATE ANALYSIS DRONE with you. AND SOON! God Help You, because your ass is grass here on this thread. AND there are plenty of TRUE BLUE, RED BLOODED REAL AMERICANS who will be happy to mow your ass everytime you speak up and throw your insane, PRO Islamic posts into your face of the last 24 hours on this thread.

To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (76138)	9/12/2001 11:08:32 AM
From: Ahda	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116815

The reasons were spelled out in part last month by Egyptian Truth President Hosni Mubarak's foreign policy advisor Osama Baz. He came to Washington carrying the urgent message from the Arab world's most populous state: the United States would face mounting rage in the Middle East unless it did something to diffuse the escalating Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I do not belive this to be true – and this is why people are willing to sacrifice themselves to kill us in return. Many people outside of this nation live where death is everyday life and life is everyday death. Conditions of poverty and acceptance of that state or what we consider an atrocity is a daily part of life to others. We don't have a choice now as we can't condone these actions we did have a choice in the beginning. The conflict in the mid east went on to long. How many average people were working with each other how much of the opportunity over there has been taken from both sides and who was right? Those in the business community working side by side with each other promoting goods and an easier life for all were right. Their politics combined with religious difference formed inflexible attitudes, these superceded the basic right to life on this planet. The results of this is here we are now fighting for our own right to freedom or the sum total of the effectiveness of the UN's non affect. We could see increased tech interest in security as well as the defense industry so gold might drop instead of rise IMHO.