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To: TobagoJack who wrote (8743)9/12/2001 7:40:03 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 74559
 
It is still Bush/Cheney/Powell vs. Iraq. The attack has the hallmark of a revenge for the Desert Storm:

1) Airplanes chirurgical hitting buildings. It is the revenge for the smart bombs that hit Iraq.
4) Hitting the Pentagon is the revenge for crippling Iraq's defence.
3) Choosing the WTC -a symbol of US economic prowess- is the revenge for crippling Iraq's oil exporting capabilities.
4) Most possibly, the fourth plane was heading, not to a government building in Washington, but most probably for a monument (Lincoln perhaps.)

The attack is to embarrass Bush/Cheney/Powell that returned to power. Even though the Bush administration may know that this is another round of the fight, they cannot just admit and retaliate against Iraq's. This limits the capacity of the Bush administration to fight back.

I have been to so many trouble in several countries -last time I was evacuated form Indonesia to San Francisco leaving Jakarta in flames- that I, perhaps as a survival instinct, am very clear in trying to identify the likely hood of the causes and the next move.

Obviously, the attack only scratch the surface of the US. But this is not an act of war, this is terrorism and it has the effect of causing terror.

There is very little the US can do in terms of retaliation since everything that could be done to Iraq has already been done. But Bush/Cheney and Powell have to do something about it. When they are ready to retaliate, then they will acknowledge it was an Iraq attack.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (8743)9/12/2001 7:50:45 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 74559
 
Jay,

I apologize. I value your posts and observations more than I can say.

I realize the few comments I have directed your way of late have appeared disproportionately negative. That does not reflect my true feeling or appreciation of what you contribute.

I live in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I have lived here all my life. The terror and horror that our country witnessed yesterday is all too familiar to me. I have seen it before, firsthand. I know what this is like.

The curtness of my comment to you yesterday was regrettably infused with memories, images, feelings that reached just beyond my power to restrain.

It was my first reaction of the day on SI to what I was witnessing, and experiencing.

It too was made in haste, but not in anger, rather in frustration.

I appreciate your more thoughtful and considered response.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (8743)9/12/2001 8:52:26 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hi Thread, I am still in Hangzhou. I do not know whether shorting the market is unpatriotic or not, because to me, finance and nationalism are completely separate matters. I am French Creole Trinidadian Hakka Chinese living in Hong Kong, with Jewish half-siblings residing in Russia and China, and I married to a Chinese born in HK, citizen of Canada, raised in New York, originating from parents who are Indonesian Chinese, and in matters of nationalism, I feel very alone, a kingdom of one. On issues of ethnic kingship, I am at times alone as well.

I do however agree that shorting this market is unwise.

The thesis of the CFC2001 was, as far as I was concerned, that a unique period has fostered a general and pervasive weakening of the overarching financial and underlying systems that valued all fungible assets highly, leaving the systems vulnerable to a trend reversal, a reversion to the mean, at a time when all the participants in the system is least able to cope with such a reversals.

We on this thread had talked about missiles, satellites, Echelon, big bombs in small containers, fanatical religions, and civilization. We now know we were not OT. We were spot on. Once again, I remind myself, “I lack imagination”.

The reversals to the mean, in the big picture, is tolerable, and on the micro scale, is preferably circum-navigated if possible, either by the policy makers making the right choices, or by individuals avoiding the epicenter of the greatest stress, namely, the equity markets, and more specifically, the US equity markets.

Now, an extraordinarily tragic and inhuman outrage has been perpetrated against human civilization, and all that holds civilization together, which is not so much finance as much as it is confidence. I believe the politicians all across the world has an unique opportunity, and Bush a unique forum, to start putting the pieces of the new world order together. All the countries suffer economic maladjustment to varying degrees, and the solutions all point to (a) purging of toxic residual in the financial system, (b) transfuse new blood, and (c) not making the same old mistakes again. In financial and economic terms, we are simply talking about vast amounts of write-offs, followed by brand spanking new money, and in political terms, a promise that all is not as it was, followed by visible progress towards a multi-lateral, universal consensus sustained implementation for this new world order.

If the politicians can visualize such an order, has the aptitude to map out the way to such a new state of affairs, and has the eloquence to convince the financial market that all is possible, the world will then be different and, accordingly, behave differently. The market, as a beast that always looks to the future, will in fact go way up.

Should the politicians dawdle and, worse, lock on to policies that clearly cannot work, the market will tank.

The most likely outcome by my figuring is that we will march right down the middle of the two alternative forks in the road, leaving the market gyrate in one hopeful direction, then another disappointed bearing, leaving no trend-following opportunistic traders safe from extreme danger, and keeping the counter-trend traders in a state of constant panic.

Chugs, Jay

P.s. If the US market opens down anything larger than 5%, I will be a buyer of the large financials and techs, trade out upon recovery. If the US market opens up (very possible), and gold shares go down (also possible), then I will sell puts on NEM once again. Should HK continue to break down today, I will buy HSBC and more PRC oil shares. In Japan, I am again eyeing 5801 (Furukawa). And I have no idea what I am doing in this uncharted territory, simply feeling the stones while crossing a murky river on bare feet.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (8743)9/21/2001 3:49:24 PM
From: freeus  Respond to of 74559
 
Thank you Jay.
This is a very bad time. I am thinking worldwide depression a la 1929. Don't even know if it's worth getting out of my mutual funds or just figure I'll be living on a lot less. Hope my house sells before real estate collapses too.

My son arrived back in the U.S. safely. He says no hatred that he sees of Americans in Bejing.
(But maybe the Chinese government now...that may be another thing altogether.)

Anyway Did you ever truly guess when you began the "financial collapse" thread that the cruelties and violences of the world would be spreading to everywhere?
Freeus