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To: Bilow who wrote (3506)9/12/2001 10:05:58 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 23908
 
Sound views... And tough to argue with at their fundamental level.

But I still have to draw a difference between attacks on civilians during periods of undeclared war as significantly different than what occurs during "official war"..

Otherwise, we would have a hard time distinquishing between your average murder on the streets, and two soldiers shooting one another on a battlefield..

Both are expressions of human brutality, but we justify it during war as being "alright".

And until we yet to find another way.

Hawkmoon



To: Bilow who wrote (3506)9/12/2001 11:23:26 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
I think it's a waste of time to talk about moralizing and who's targeting civilians and who's sticking to military targets. That's civilian BS. Ever notice how civilians always refer to themselves as "innocent"? The implication is that people in the military must be "guilty". The actual fact is war is carried on between societies, and everyone's involved.


What you say is true for 19th and 20th century wars, modern wars, total wars. I just want to note that it has generally not been true for most of history; war is a game with rules. For example, 18th century wars were fought between small standing armies and the civilians were mostly left out of it. How wars will be fought in the 21st century remains to be seen.



To: Bilow who wrote (3506)9/13/2001 12:52:31 AM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23908
 
It's time to ask whether we want to suffer this again, or put a stop to it. It's a matter of survival, and we intend to survive.

Every war is fought by peoples who believe themselves to be in the right.