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To: fingolfen who wrote (143352)	9/12/2001 12:27:16 PM
From: Joe NYC	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Fin, This is a case about protecting the U.S. Constitutuion which it seems far too many Americans are willing to throw on the fire in the name of vengeance. You abridge one person's rights under the Consitution... and you abridge everyone's... In my post to you I mentioned immigration. None of the would be and actual immigrants have any rights under the constitution, not until 5 years into their stay in the US when they can become citizens. There is nothing in the constitution about immigration, which means Congress is free to pass any laws, and they can come up with list of countries from where we should indefinitely suspend immigration. How does it abridge constitutional rights of anyone if the US suspends immigration from say Afganistan or Syria, and refuses to issue visa to any person born in those countries? It would be an arbitrary law, and we have about a million of laws on the books that have some completely arbitrary elements in them. I honestly don't see how you came to that conclusion. Those two were soldiers in a declared war. They are therefore a valid target. The bottom line is at this point is WE DON'T HAVE A VALID TARGET! Far too many people here are ready to blame the entire Islamic religion, and that's just plain wrong! Once we have a valid target, we pursue and eliminate that target with extreme prejudice. IMHO, we don't do it alone either... we get the Russians and Chinese involved so it isn't just a case of "Western aggression" to perpetuate the cycle... This is the reason why the one person whose opinion I found refreshing was Newt Gingrigh, who said yesterday that the US should formally declare war on those responsible, which would make everyone related to the bombing a valid target. BTW, I don't advocate carpet bombing starting immediately. I think we need to have a long term strategy first before any action is undertaken. And if it takes a month to come up with strategy, and a month of apparent inaction, it is fine with me. But domesticly, I think we should have the same surveillance of the radical muslim groups that we had in the middle of Cold war of representatives of the governments of Communist countries, the same level of espionage. With that, I hope they started already. Joe