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To: dustcatcher who wrote (41409)9/12/2001 1:30:57 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 65232
 
Some Morgan Stanley folks got out ...

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To: dustcatcher who wrote (41409)9/12/2001 1:41:43 PM
From: DiB  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 65232
 
WTC was built to withstand a hit from Boeing 707. Unfortunately, 757 and 767 are much bigger planes...



To: dustcatcher who wrote (41409)9/12/2001 2:24:40 PM
From: Morris Catt  Respond to of 65232
 
Why the World Trade Towers Collapsed:

The World Trade Towers were structural steel on concrete foundations. The structural steel supports are normally coated with fire retardant materials. But this fire magnitude and the temperatures generated were far in excess of the design specs. When the planes hit loaded with fuel the impact & explosion started a massive fire raising the steel tempertures to likely in excess of 900 degrees F. This weakened the steel support plus likey some steel supports were sheared in the collision. With some support beams lost and the temperature quickly rising in the remaining beams over several floors the remaining beams quickly lost load carrying capacity. As soon as the the shear or compressive strength dropped below the actual stress load the whole building collapsed from the floors of impact down by all the weight from above. Almost certainly the temperature of the fire was far above and encompassed far more floors than the building was designed to withstand.

Any thermal insulation remaining on steel supports after the crash would do little or no good in a sustained fire since the steel supports are not cooled.

Mac

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To: dustcatcher who wrote (41409)9/12/2001 5:49:18 PM
From: Boplicity  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 65232
 
The steel will last around two hours no matter what, then it would melt.



To: dustcatcher who wrote (41409)9/14/2001 12:17:47 AM
From: Boplicity  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 65232
 
From a pal of mine in the asbestos abatement industry,

Yes , all the steel in the building was coated in asbestos fireproffing. I have heard that there were airborne concentrations 4 X the legal limit. Saving lives now is more important than possibly getting a disease in 40 years. They have detected dusts about a 3 miles away that contains asbestos.