To: JDN who wrote (13135 ) 9/12/2001 3:29:58 PM From: ratan lal Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 17183 JDN I learned long back to never believe what i hear and only half believe what i see. In this day and age most things are not as they seem. And taking out a government will also involve taking out many civilians unless the US penetrates the civilians and tries to overthrow the govt. Here is some background..Sponsored by US and Pakistan His power is founded on a personal fortune earned by his family's construction business in Saudi Arabia. Attacks linked to Bin Laden 1993 World Trade Centre bomb 1996 Killing of 19 US soldiers in Saudi Nairobi and Dar es Salaam bombs 2000 Attack on USS Cole in Yemen Born in Saudi Arabia to a Yemeni family, Mr Bin Laden left Saudi Arabia in 1979 to fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Afghan jihad was backed with American dollars and had the blessing of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. He received security training from the CIA itself, according to Middle Eastern analyst Hazhir Teimourian. Now how do you propose we deal with the Pakistan and US Govt. and the CIA ? Is there any indication he works with governments in the Middle East? Aside from Afghanistan, where bin Laden has long-standing ties — including some possible family ties — with the ruling Taliban, there are indications bin Laden has some contacts with both the governments of Iran and Pakistan. The connections with Iran are described in recent Justice Department papers filed in the embassy bombing case. The U.S. alleges that on two different occasions in the early 1990s, a senior religious leader from Iran met with bin Laden’s representatives in Khartoum to discuss putting aside religious differences — bin Laden is a Wahabi Muslim, Iran is Shiite — and cooperating against western interests. However, there is no information to suggest any joint operations were ever planned or carried out. The link with Pakistan is more current. One issue that distresses U.S. officials is intelligence that bin Laden, Kashmiri Muslim rebels in India and Pakistan’s Inter-Service Intelligence [ISI], its quasi-autonomous military intelligence agency, are involved in “monkey business” together. The U.S. used the ISI in the 1980s to fund, train and arm the Afghan mujahedin, including bin Laden, in its fight against the Soviet Red Army. Calling it a “stew,” a “crazy soup” and a “cozy relationship,” two officials noted that the key to the relationship is Pakistan’s use of rebel insurgents in Kashmir, the troubled region that has been the subject of three wars between Pakistan and India. Muslim fighters, financed by the ISI but trained by bin Laden, have been operating in the Indian part of Kashmir. “The Pakistanis have interest in working with people who can help them in Kashmir. Bin Laden has an interest in helping Muslim fighters. It is a cozy relationship.” In fact, said the officials, the U.S. now believes that most of those killed in last August’s attack on bin Laden camps in Afghanistan were Kashmiri insurgents training to kill Indians. And that linkage, they note, is critical to understanding both bin Laden’s network and the future of religious terrorism. Bin Laden, they note, has had connections over the years with other terrorist groups in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt, Chechnya, Bosnia, Albania, Algeria, Uruguay and Ecuador. In addition to the troubles Bin Laden and Pakistan create regularly in Kashmir, they have also bombed the major cities of India several times killing hundreds of people. I heard a lot of sympathy from the US but no responsibility and no cooperation with india to apprehend and try Osama Bin Laden.