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To: Win Smith who wrote (54747)	9/12/2001 3:31:57 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 275872

Winm As you get into very dry areas they are forced to use water wisely, there is not enough to waste. Further upstream into the western states the waste gets worse and worse. I am sure there are 1000 angles here, there must be 1000 sites on desert water use and management. Bill

To: Win Smith who wrote (54747)	9/12/2001 3:37:33 PM
From: ptanner	Respond to of 275872

Win, Re: "In California, they grow rice in the desert and irrigate pasture land. Very rational resource use. Farmers must be something like 1% of the population in California, though, so their political clout is perfectly understandable. Of course, the movie "Chinatown" was set in California too." Some of the California projects initially were growing crops that were either subsidized or for which farmers elsewhere were being paid not to grow. Dry desert land is worth <<$50/ac but with low-cost irrigation water can be worth 20 times that. Political clout seems to be more a reflection of the available political dollars than the number of people -- and the more concentrated the dollars the more clout (1,000,000 people x $10 dollars is much less than 1 x $500,000). And "Chinatown" is the fifth video included in the "Cadillac Desert" series when you order it from PBS. The fourth being a follow-up documentary on "solutions" which I haven't watched yet - but is in the other room and likely overdue (at least library late fees are much more modest than video shops). -PT