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To: DMaA who wrote (180057)9/12/2001 6:02:21 PM
From: CYBERKEN  Respond to of 769670
 
We should not condemn the Islamic religion. Any of the bibles can be mis-interpreted to result in monstrous activity. There are hundreds of millions of Moslems, and the vast majority of them are as horrified by these acts as America is.

The only religion that doesn't seem to offer the consolation that such murders must be condemned appears to be Secular Materialism, where even mass murder is trivial in the cause of the Greater Good...



To: DMaA who wrote (180057)9/12/2001 7:49:12 PM
From: goldworldnet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Muslims - Heathens - Pagans - Infidels

Muslims

"Islam has approved war so that the Word of God becomes supreme. This is war for the cause of God (Holy War). Muhammad, therefore, sent his ambassadors to eight kings and princes in the neighborhood of the Arab Peninsula to call them to embrace Islam. They rejected his call. Thus, it became incumbent on the Muslims to fight them."

Heathens

"The prophet Muhammad did not accept from the Arab heathens less than Islam or the sword. This is compulsion of faith. No compulsion in faith (or religion) applies only to Christians or Jews because they are not to be forced to embrace the religion. They have the option either to embrace Islam, the sword, or to pay the poll-tax. In this case they can keep their own faith. It was truly said on the authority of the apostle of God that there is no compulsion in the faith.

"When the sacred months elapse, kill those who associate other gods with God, wherever you find them" (Surah 9:5).

Pagans

"O ye who believe! Truly the pagans are unclean, so let them not approach the sacred Mosque after this year, and if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you (if He wills) out of His bounty for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise ... fight against the people of the Book ...." (to the end of verse 29).

The Tabari adds:

"The meaning of the Qur’anic statement: ‘... until they pay the poll-tax with submission and humiliation’ (literally: to pay by hand and with forced submission) is that the Muslim will receive the tax imposed on Christians and Jews while he is sitting and they are standing. He will take it from their own hands since the Christian or the Jew should not send the money with a messenger but come himself and stand to pay it to the Muslim who will be sitting. The saying, ‘with forced submission’, also means with humiliation"

Infidels

"The chapter of Repentance was revealed to raise the level of security which the infidels enjoyed because Muhammad had earlier made a covenant with them not to kill them. After that, this verse was given (9:5) in order to free God and Muhammad from any covenant with the infidels. It gives them four months in which they will be protected, but by the end of the four months (the end of the grace period), the order comes: Kill the infidels wherever you find them. Capture them, besiege them in their castles and fortresses until they are forced to accept Islam or be killed."

Excerpted from
answering-islam.org

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To: DMaA who wrote (180057)9/12/2001 9:09:38 PM
From: art slott  Respond to of 769670
 
I guess it depends on what verse they take literally. Those who seek to destroy us obviously believed in that passage.