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To: KyrosL who wrote (121398)	9/12/2001 8:37:16 PM
From: PMG	Respond to of 436258

the "nuclear option" is a put on the world

To: KyrosL who wrote (121398)	9/12/2001 10:46:48 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

After yesterday, I would not be surprised to see a nuclear attack on the US from the same people. Nor would I be surprised to see a nerve gas attack, a biological warfare attack, you name it. Anything is thinkable, and anything that's thinkable is do-able. They were planning to take out the White House! Thank goodness, the pilots were not good enough to hit such a small target, surrounded by other buildings. Don't know if you've ever seen it on foot, but it's rather small and inconspicuous. Nothing like the Pentagon - that's like hitting the broad side of a barn. It's huge, and all isolated in an enormous empty field, no trees, and the biggest parking lot I've ever seen. What about the Capitol? Wonder why they didn't hit that? Maybe they figured taking out Congress would just be doing us a favor. (Gallows humor - I actually like quite a few Congressmen/women.) I think we need to treat all possibilities as eventualities, and plan accordingly. Which means we need to start rolling up all organizations in possession of nuclear bombs and material capable of being used in nuclear bombs, and destroying every lab with the capability of making nerve gas and biological war materials. Yes, that means taking it away from the sovereign nation of Iraq, and possibly from the sovereign nations of Iran and Pakistan, if need be. F* the war on drugs. Cocaine and heroin are nothing compared to this. I don't agree with those who want us to go in willy-nilly and "kill them all, let God sort it out." But I think we need to take their little toys away from them. 70 years ago, we could have had the same debates - if you knew then what you know now, would you have sent a hit squad to take out Hitler? I would have. Sovereign immunity is a rule for people who play by rules. If they want to use it as a sword, they will not be allowed to use it as a shield.

To: KyrosL who wrote (121398)	9/13/2001 6:57:46 PM
From: RocketMan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

Hate to tell you this, but (1) the energy released at the WTC was a few tenths of a kiloton of TNT, which is already equivalent, at the low end, to a tactical nuclear weapon, and (2) bin Laden has been reported, by credible intelligence organizations, to already have up to 20 tactical nukes that he obtained from the ex-Soviet Chechnyan arsenal. freeman.org I, for one, discount some of that information, but if not today it is only a matter of time. So, our options are, wait for a crazed lunatic to order his terrorist gangsters to explode a few kiloton nuclear device in a major US city one, five, ten years from now, or pre-empt and clean them out in their nests while we have the upper hand. I don't say we do this alone, I say we do this in concert with other nations that are willing to face the reality of this threat to civilization, and to take action that is unthinkable to some, but not unthinkable to the depraved fanatics hiding in camps that are hard to get to by anything but tactical nukes. It's called deterrence, and it kept a pax atomica for over 50 years after our first use.