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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sea Otter who wrote (969)	9/12/2001 11:48:41 PM
From: George Papadopoulos	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

that was a great and sad article, thanks for posting it.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (969)	9/12/2001 11:54:30 PM
From: Rollcast...	Respond to of 27666

That is the saddest aspect of all of this - most Afghans are innocent in this... The Taliban is the equivalent of the Ayatollah and his mullahs in Iran in the mid eighties or the Nazi party in Germany... maybe worse as even the Iranian clergy thinks they are extremists. However - this cannot change the absolute need for a brutal and massive response.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (969)	9/13/2001 12:00:54 AM
From: Area51	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

I'm not sure whether bin Laden is a tool of the Taliban or vice-versa? I'm not sure what the answer is. I only know that our country has been violated and we need to make a stand or become a whipping boy for terrorists everywhere. Some interesting background saag.org (below pasted is only an excerpt): The latest position of the Bush Administration seems to be a follow-up of the recommendations made by the Foundation, a conservative think tank close to the Republican Party, in a paper of July, 2000. The paper had recommended as follows: * Even if the United States were fortunate enough to eliminate bin Laden by military means, other Islamic radicals will continue to threaten American security and American allies from Afghan bases as long as the Taliban prevails there. * "Rather than focusing narrowly on bin Laden, the United States should focus on uprooting the Taliban regime that sustains him and others like him. Washington should develop a regional strategy to halt Pakistan's support of the Taliban, build up Afghan opposition to the Taliban, and encourage defections from its ranks. The ultimate U.S. goal should be a stable, tolerant, inclusive Afghan government that poses no threats to its neighbors or to its own ethnic and religious minorities. To accomplish this, Washington should cooperate with the broad anti-Taliban coalition that surrounds Afghanistan and help to forge a broad anti-Taliban coalition inside Afghanistan." * " Specifically, the United States should maximize international pressure on the Taliban, including additional United Nations sanctions, to halt its support of terrorism, pressure Pakistan to end its support of the Taliban; and designate the Taliban as a terrorist organization to set the stage for declaring Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism if it continues to support the Taliban. "