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To: chaz who wrote (46567)	9/13/2001 3:43:38 AM
From: techreports	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 54805

I hope you won't mind being reminded that the target was Saddam Hussein. chaz, Not sure what you mean, but that building we knocked out was because we were going after Bin Laden, not Saddam Hussein. You may have me confused, but I remember when this happened awhile back and someone on TV just mentioned it today. It's very likely we killed innocent people trying to get back at Bin Laden. I am not sure what is being taught in schools today, but when I was a young man attending Palo Alto High School across the street from the great citadel of liberal professors at Stanford University, we were taught that Americans were indeed guilty, that the military was evil and that great companies like IBM and HP were in the business of spreading an evil form of American economic imperialism around the world. This education along with further liberal arts education in college impacted decisions in my life for many years, but eventually the same thing happened to me that happens to many young men---I became more conservative like my father and learned to love America for its greatness. hueyone, I can not tell, but if you are assuming that I've been taught to not love America that can not be anything more but wrong. I love this country and I wish I could do something to help those people in need. I'm very grateful for the opportunities I have and my freedoms. I just think we need to keep an open mind and realize that some of the Arab people don't view us as a beacon of freedom and democracy. They see us as the devil. btw, I still think it would have been better if this attack was against a military outpost, rather than civilian buildings. There are unwritten rules of warfare and these terrorists have no notion or idea of it. That's what scares me. These people have the ability to launch a biological weapon on a major US city with-out a second thought. The Soviet Union or China would most likely never do this. I really don't even know if Saddam Hussein would ever try a move like this. Saddam has made comments that if the US used nuclear technology on a major Iraqi city, he'd do the same (except he'd use biological weapons). There is a compelling need to confront evil forcefully. The period preceding WWII proved that ignoring it only allows it to grow powerful. If it was only that simple! I would be very, very surprised if the United States is able to knock out Ben Laden and end terrorism. The reason I'm very doubtful is because we can not knock out the drug cartel and their main objective is to sell drugs. These people are not nearly as mobile as Ben Laden. Terrorist groups are focused on killing people and are much more focused on military operations and staying very mobile to keep governments from finding them. I do expect the US military to put a lot more money behind finding Ben Laden than what we've put behind getting the drug cartels. Still, i'm a skeptical. You can disagree with my comments..that's fine. If you want to go to war and kill more people...that's your thing, not mine. I just feel that if we go to war and kill Ben Laden another one will appear. Obviously, I wish the terrorists would go away, but they feel we're taking their rights away and they've made this into a holy war. I suggest you pray for the innocent Americans, but more importantly, pray for these terrorists. I think that's what Jesus would want us to do. p.s. these posts have nothing to do with gorilla gaming, so this will be my last post on this subject. If you have anything to say to me, please PM me.

To: chaz who wrote (46567)	9/13/2001 11:33:04 AM
From: BDR	Respond to of 54805

To clear the record of what was bombed where and when, I offer the following. I think the facts are correct but I can't vouch for the credibility of the source. I don't usually read the Independent. infoshop.org May 5, 1999 US admits Sudan bombing mistake INDEPENDENT (London) May 4 By Andrew Marshall in Washington In an admission that last year's missile attack on a factory in Sudan was a mistake, the US has cleared the man who owned the plant of any links to terrorism. The embarrassing reversal means that the US has virtually no evidence to support its claim that the missile attack was a strike against terrorism. Most of those who have investigated the case have concluded that the US acted on faulty intelligence and that key procedures were overriden by officials in the White House. The affair is already the subject of congressional inquiries and may result in the departure of some senior White House officials. America launched cruise missiles against targets in Afghanistan and Sudan in August last year after bomb attacks on its embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam. It blamed the bombings on Osama bin Laden, the former Saudi who it accuses of backing many attacks on US targets. It said that the pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum was linked to Mr bin Laden and was used to produce chemical weapons. The US was forced to admit within hours that the plant was not a Sudanese government facility, but a private factory belonging to Salah Idris, a Saudi businessman. But it then said that Mr Idris was himself linked to terrorism and to Mr bin Laden. It froze all of his bank accounts, including money held at Bank of America in London. Yesterday, with no public announcement or fanfare, it unfroze the accounts, admitting that no evidence existed to accuse Mr Idris. Mr Idris hired Akin, Gump Strauss, Hauer & Feld, a top Washington law firm, to press his case. He sued Bank of America and the US government, and hired Kroll Associates, the top private investigators, to clear him. Kroll found no evidence of any links between Mr Idris and Mr bin Laden. Yesterday, the US was due to reply to Mr Idris's law suits, but instead chose to retreat and unfreeze the accounts. "Today's order lifting all restrictions on the Bank of America accounts also effectively removes any suggestion that Mr Idris has, at any time, maintained a relationship with Osama bin Laden or any terrorist group or organisation," said Akin, Gump in a statement. Spokesmen for Mr Idris said they were "jubilant" but that there could still be a law suit to recover compensation. "I am grateful that the United States has taken the honourable course and has corrected, in part, the serious harm that has been done to my family and our good name," said Mr Idris yesterday from Sudan. "While I understand that the United States must wage a vigorous fight against terrorism, in this case a grave error has been made." Britain never supported the idea that Mr Idris had links to Mr bin Laden, and he was permitted to enter and leave London (where he maintains a flat) freely. The widespread view outside the US was that the White House had insufficient evidence for the attack.