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To: HG who wrote (6591)	9/13/2001 11:15:58 AM
From: Original Mad Dog	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 10077

I think what Arno meant (though he can certainly speak for himself) is that Americans, collectively, may not have the will for what lies ahead. Consider the following: 1. The U.S. attacks countries which are well fortified and can inflict casualties on the attackers. Body bags begin returning home, or, in the case of planes shot down, not returning home. Dan Rather begins interviewing 25-year old widows holding infant children of the flight crews. 2. World debate centers on whether the U.S. is inflicting cruel harm on countries who did not even carry out the attacks. 3. More terrorist attacks on U.S. soil are carried out. More body bags. More cycle of violence. 4. Oil is cut off from other Islamic countries, leaving us with half of the supplies we need for our economy as currently structured to operate. 5. The UN tells us to give it up already. 6. We say no, and press on with bombings and invasions alone. More body bags, more widows and widowers. 7. More terrorism is inflicted on us. Do we have the stomach to fight this war, especially if casualties are high and it seems like no matter what we do, we are not winning? I think that's a fair question. It's not a matter of whether Arno has the will and others don't. It's a matter of whether we as a collection of individuals are willing to suffer to that degree. I have to agree with what I think arno is saying. I am not sure whether we are or not. But we may be about to find out.

To: HG who wrote (6591)	9/13/2001 11:17:16 AM
From: mr.mark	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10077

"I meant don't be so picky about the comments people make" again, i think you might benefit best from your own advice, HG i am very interested in arno's response to my question. i want to know if he feels he personally has the resolve, the stomach, to do "whatever it takes", but that others don't.

To: HG who wrote (6591)	9/13/2001 11:29:43 AM
From: Dr. Voodoo	Respond to of 10077

Arno, Tom, all, thank you for the congrats. Arno, HG, My point is that we should all not be so cynical. We should all learn to keep a vigilant eye. We should not allow ourselves to act like sheep to a slaughter. "Whatever it takes" means exactly that-- to step up and meet those unforeseen challenges. Now is not the time to be questioning our resolve with cynicism and finger pointing. It's the time to take action so these things never happen again. If it means that we do not allow foreigners to educate themselves in certain fields without background checks, then so be it. If it means we question those around us more closely, then lets make that an opportunity to get to know each other. If it means that we as a nation of people learn to respect the intelligent laws designed to maintain our collective safety, then maybe it's time. I don't know how many of you have had the good fortune to travel and spend time abroad and observe the culture. One thing that has been missing in our society for quite some time is the face to face interaction of our people as a community. I'm not suggesting our churches, and community "focus" groups; I'm suggesting our street corners and our neighborhoods and markets. We have to stop dividing ourselves to the point that we allow ourselves to be indifferent to other's actions. Freedom does not mean anarchy. It's up to all of us to maintain our freedom.