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Strategies & Market Trends : Steve's Channelling Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (27314)	9/13/2001 6:26:31 PM
From: James Calladine	Respond to of 30051

"These people were Saudi's" Is this true? Could you say what you have to support that? Namaste! Jim

To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (27314)	9/13/2001 7:52:15 PM
From: brightness00	Respond to of 30051

Well, they are actually "rebel" saudis, if you can say that. Their own version of "freedom of speech," "freedom of religion," and "self-government" (all of which are restricted to a severe degree by the current regimes in that part of the world, the same regimes in their eyes survive only because of American support) is what they are "fighting" for. In a way, they are not unlike the Serbian "Black Hands" of one hundred years ago, the same nationalist terrorist organization that assassinated the Archduke Ferdinand, and ignited WWI. Nationalism and violent pursuit of "democracy" (the misunderstood version, i.e. simple local majority rule without consideration for basic human rights) can be a very dangerous mix when they perceive oppression as coming from and supported by an outside power. Jim

To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (27314)	9/13/2001 8:26:10 PM
From: Rich1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 30051

What he is saying is that we should kiss these peoples a**es let them take our money and knowledge and then understand why they hate us and want to kill us and through this understanding we will all be better people..Thats Total BSD... This is a man( I assume he is anyway although the way he psots I wonder) thatPM's you when you say something offensive.... Be careful if you dont agree with him he will put you on ignore.. You should be so lucky...<ggg>

To: Abner Hosmer who wrote (27314)	9/13/2001 8:44:24 PM
From: Bosco	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 30051

<ot>Hi Tom - hopefully, your post was just emotion talking. The words 'Sandi' and 'They' are generality while the perpetrators are individuals. To be fair, I ve no great love for some of the cultural hangups of the Sandi. However, if ObL is indeed the mastermind, it should be understood that he has been disowned by relatives quite a while ago. Now, I don't know if it is for real or if it is lip service, but take it fwiw. More important, confusing a category with a particular is a big no-no for logicians. Surely, one can understand if Socrates is a man and I am a man, therefore I am a philosopher is a laughable assertion! To move away from this academic talk, even President Bush has warned not to confuse all Arab descent or those with the Islamic faith with terrorism and/or unpatriotic tendency. [Otherwise, a lot of little kids may lose their favorite basketball players <g> to this campaign of exclusivity. Speaking of friendship, there is no doubt one should pick one's friends seriously. As someone here has already pointed out, the US and the current Afgan regime were "fast friends" once [and Saddam, too!] So, sometimes the enemy of my enemy may not be my friend afterall. So, blame no one but ourselves for reaping the bitter harvest of our own choice. An unholy alliance is just that, but one certainly doesn't let go of trusty ally simply b/c there are occasional disagreements. Just my take best, Bosco