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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (27131)	9/14/2001 11:23:01 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

An attack upon Afghanistan from either direction , from up thru Pakistan , or down from Tajikistan where the Russians still have stationed 15,000 troops is more than daunting ... some info and background here on Tajikistan atimes.com here's a map to refer to , from teresa's post before(prolly better map would do) azzam.com You can bomb Kabul for immediate retribution on the Taliban , but there's hardly anything there worth bombing , it's bin Laden we want. Will airstrikes be enough to force the Taliban's hand ? It will be known soon enough how prepared our intelligence really is . As for a joint effort and staging some offensive from Tajikistan to the north U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage is scheduled to hold talks on joint anti-terrorist efforts in the Russian capital next week. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov on Friday tried to squelch speculation that a U.S.-led anti-terrorist operation could be launched against Afghanistan from formerly Soviet Central Asia ....and he announced that the chiefs of the army general staffs of the 12 countries of the CIS - a loose grouping of formerly Soviet states - would meet in Moscow on Sept. 26 to discuss coordination of military steps against terrorism. Gen. Anatoly Kvashnin, the head of the Russian General Staff, said it was unlikely that the Russian armed forces would take part in ``acts of revenge'' for this week's deadly attacks against the World Trade Center and Pentagon . ``The United States has powerful enough military forces that it can cope with this task on its own,''Kvashnin was quoted as saying. He added that there had been no talks on the military level between the United States and Russia about Moscow's participation in any operation. Russia has about 25,000 troops stationed in Tajikistan, which borders on Afghanistan and is one of the few countries from which an offensive could be launched. Impoverished Tajikistan is still trying to recover from a five-year civil war between mostly Islamic opposition forces and the hard-line secular government, and it is frequently wracked by violence. Nikolai Kovalyov, the former head of Russia's Federal Security Service, the KGB's main successor, warned Friday that a U.S. attack on Afghanistan would fail to reach bin Laden and would backfire on the United States. ``In Afghanistan's mountainous terrain, it takes a trainload of explosives to destroy three militants,'' he said at a news conference. ``The chance of hitting bin Laden is zero.'' The task set before our planners , without cooperation from the Pakistani Intelligence all the way ...and later from the Russians (possibly later the Chinese?) , puts before us a monumental under taking , and a resolve of steel. And this is just in dealing with the terrorist camps in geopolitical & geographical blackholes of Afghanistan and the Russo/ Pan Asian area... great post BTW , Solon.

To: Solon who wrote (27131)	9/14/2001 7:36:50 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

Shower your bitterness on another parade Sunshine. It is only a matter of time before one of these boys dances into Times Square with a nuclear device. And then what will the Gore Gals say?

To: Solon who wrote (27131)	9/15/2001 4:50:17 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

my brief conversation with a "Nuke em"---<<To:thestockrider who wrote (92) From: Rich1 Wednesday, Sep 12, 2001 3:50 PM View Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206 You know what Harry Truman would have done????>> my reply<< To:Rich1 who wrote (96) From: LTK007 Wednesday, Sep 12, 2001 11:49 PM View Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206 Truman is not proud of what he did---it was estimated that if he did not do what he did,2million more allied soldiers would die to get a surrender. The war already ,for us,was 4 years old,and the enemy would never surrender. But you wimps,don't want any war,you just want to have a Nuclear Blast you can watch on your T.V. sets and then think how fuuuking brave you are--dirty cowards!!!!!Max>> his reply << To:LTK007 who wrote (127) From: Rich1 Thursday, Sep 13, 2001 6:12 AM View Replies (2) \| Respond to of 206 I am not an advocate of being a wimp... >> my reply <<To:Rich1 who wrote (137) From: LTK007 Thursday, Sep 13, 2001 10:34 AM Respond to of 206 wimps Nuke,because they have no balls to fight an honorable war."We never have to be couragous again,we just blow them up" is their motto. And watch the news reals of unspeakable horror and wave the american flag(that is the Nuke em's visionary mind)--o you are a wimp.Max >> and thus conversation ceased---point being "Nuke em" types are fundamental cowards of the lowest order.PaxMax

To: Solon who wrote (27131)	9/15/2001 4:58:33 AM
From: LTK007	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

<<Talking about "nuking" the bastards is far too indiscriminate as an expression of rational human responses. However, one does understand the anguish and anger that needs to be verbally expressed by all Americans--and by all her friends in the world community--indeed, by all humans who are beyond a selfish, unconscionable, and isolated psychopathy.>. regards Truman ,i went on to describe how nukes,after the horrendous realities of Nuclear Bombs hit home,gained a "Never Again" status. But not with that Glory Boy pipe chewing Poseur,MacArthur,who wanted to end the Korean War with Nuclear Bombs---Truman then kick him out--fired The Great Poseur--MacArthur.PaxMax