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To: Ilaine who wrote (9148)	9/14/2001 1:36:19 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 74559

Hi CB I hope it never comes to that because that would be great disaster. I think now for China it would be: Well I won't back down, no I won't back down you could stand me up at the gates of hell but I won't back down - Tom Petty regard Kastel a cute and cuddly Canadian

To: Ilaine who wrote (9148)	9/14/2001 7:33:50 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi CB, Not to extend the discussion on this thread further, for the moment, but a short clarification, for now ... <<... Elian Gonzalez episode ... contemplating divorce>> My wife does not disagree with me on political and geo-political matters. She just says to others, "he is crazy, and buying gold" which pulverizes any argument I can put up, because then there is none. <<Taiwan if China>> If the US genuinely believes China will attack Taiwan without Taiwan declaring independence, the US is preparing for the wrong contingency and engaging the wrong party in conversation. And without outside manipulation, there will be no domestic Taiwan consensus on independence. <<your clients>> Not client, but the buying party to my Britsih client's shares. The man is a domestically grown entrepreneur, with two daughters in Canadian schools, building factories employing workers, and buying out local government partners of the British client so as to gain greater operating freedom. Yes, a domestically grown USD 200 mmnaire. As I was dealing with the buyer, my wife was dealing with yet another PRC mainland grown advertising tycoon visiting HK who places a few hundred mm of ads per year, employing an American as his EVP. I think the US is seriously not understanding what is taking place here in China, as the US was and may still be seriously not understanding what its enemies have been up to and why. Chugs, Jay