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To: TGPTNDR who wrote (55173)	9/14/2001 12:51:48 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Hi TGPTNDR; The difference with both Vietnam and Afghanistan is that both countries were supplied with arms by the opposing superpowers. That's a big difference. I think that one of the things the world is going to be very surprised at is how much more effective the U.S. military is than the Russian. -- Carl

To: TGPTNDR who wrote (55173)	9/14/2001 1:04:53 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Hi TGPTNDR; Re: "You've got a new batch of kids coming along every day. Every day you've got a new batch who were born around 10 years ago and are ready to go shooting. Not deer and jackrabbits like those tough Texans, but Russian troops." I just saw this: Taliban in 'No-Win Situation' Kathy Gannon, Associated Press Writer, September 14, 2001 The cost of handing over Osama bin Laden could be high for Afghanistan's hard-line Taliban rulers. But the price of protecting the key suspect in terror attacks on the United States could be even greater with rumbles in Washington of retaliatory air strikes. ... Giving up bin Laden could be military suicide for the Taliban, who still have several front lines north of Kabul, where thousands of their Arab allies and Islamic guerrillas from countries such as Uzbekistan, Pakistan and the breakaway republic of Chechnya are battling an anti-Taliban alliance. If the Taliban gives in to demands for bin Laden's surrender, the foreign militants might abandon their fight. With many Afghans disillusioned by the relentless combat, the local pool of warriors has run low, increasing the Taliban's dependence on foreign fighters - euphemistically called "guests." There may be as many as 6,000 foreign militants, according to one international observer who was among those evacuated from Kabul on Thursday. "They keep them for the fighting. They are coming and going all the time," a high-ranking Taliban official said on condition of anonymity. "It gives them more influence right now." ... news.excite.com This is exactly what I would expect. Seeing all your relatives maimed or killed puts the damper on youthful inclination to self sacrifice. Eventually, even very warlike parents decide that they want to have one son to carry on the family name. Biology is biology, and human nature is human nature. Eventually it becomes obvious that getting your ass shot in a useless conflict is too easy of a way to improve the gene pool. -- Carl