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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (55212)9/14/2001 3:10:38 PM
From: Road WalkerRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Ten,

re: Yeah, I know, it's a shame, but like I said before, it's a war.

It's beginning to sound like WWIII. We are now willing to attack innocent countries because they are "with us or against us", no middle ground. Actually, a lot more severe than any previous war.

I'm more than a little worried that, in our grief and rage, we may be abandoning the fundamental principles that we work so hard to defend. I've never felt very comfortable with arm chair patriots waving American flags, bent on vengance.

Now we seem to be headed into the middle of a religious war, guns blazing, with little regard to the consequences, long or short term. We seem to have the support of the middle east regimes, that doesn't mean we have the support of their people (in some cases at least, we don't). The official support could turn on a dime, once the bombs start dropping and the US troops hit the Muslim ground.

It's very easy to be confident, and have bravado entering a war. If we end up in a ground war in the middle east, thousands of US soldiers will be killed. And with the capabilities in the region, unthinkable consequences could result. All to settle a score with a single terrorist group.

Lots of folks seem to smell blood, and that's a powerful emotional force after a huge loss. Hopefully there are some level heads in Washington that are willing to look at the big picture, and make some sensible decisions that don't drag the country into a conflict that would be a much larger tragedy.

At the times when you want to strike out, it's usually the time you really need to step back and think. But I guess nobody wants to hear that right now.

John



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (55212)9/14/2001 8:17:54 PM
From: tejekRespond to of 275872
 
Yes, I know it's not as clear cut as I make it sound. But it is now a war, and in a war, it's either them or us. These countries had better become part of the solution, or else they will be considered part of the problem and dealt with accordingly.

Ten, if when you say war, you mean like Desert Storm then we might as well pack it in right now. The only 'war' that will be effective is a multi front/multi country one done underground without a lot of weapons. We are going to have to beat the terrorists at their own game.

If we use our military power to flatten one country, all the doors opening to us right now will slam shut. For the first time, the peoples of the world feel sympathy and compassion. We must not squander that asset of GI Joe sh*t. We will need the support of as many countries and their intelligence operations as possible, all the international groups that may look favorably on us right now, and any former terrorists who have legitimately turned on their terrorist leaders. We will have to identify and eradicate each of the major cells that exist. Our 'bull in the china closet' routine does not work when the enemy is not visible, operates on a shoe string and has a strong underground network. It will be very hard work and I suspect it will take years to accomplish.

ted



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (55212)9/15/2001 5:38:21 AM
From: Joe NYCRespond to of 275872
 
T,

Re: UAE, Qatar and Bahrain

If they are knowing holding funds for suspected terrorist groups, they should freeze them or face the consequences.


If there is a conflict, we will need as many friends, and not too many enemies. UAE etc. would be on the friendly side most likely. I think gentle persuasion would work better with those countries

Joe