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To: Mr. Whist who wrote (181188)9/14/2001 3:13:37 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769670
 
Actually, that's not how I read Ken's remarks. But more importantly, he was taken to task by myself and others for some of his more extreme posts. I've yet to see you make a peep about some of the ridicuolus crap AS, assenna, CC, et al post. The fact that you dredge this up again says a lot more about you than it does about Kenny.

You're a loser. A sore loser and a petty, partisan whiner.

JLA



To: Mr. Whist who wrote (181188)9/14/2001 5:00:25 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston  Respond to of 769670
 
Jihaad is mostly defined as struggle.

When the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, went to Medina, a different stage began, and there
was now a jihaad of a physical type, a martial struggle where they went out. However, Allah
subhaana wa ta'aala says to fight them until the war comes to an end. This type of jihaad has an end in
time, and yet jihaad in its broader understanding in the sharia' never ends. The struggle for the sake of
Allah never ends as long as somebody is in this abode. This is why jihaad is the expenditure of one's
efforts for the sake of good. It means to do good things. It means to exert one's effort in the society to
help people, to expend one's wealth-to give charity-to change the conditions around you: if they are
bad, make them better. This can be done without martial effort in many places, and this is still a type
of jihaad. This is why it is wrong for people to narrow the understanding of jihaad to some limited
definition which only gives the understanding of military struggle because that is not what jihaad
means in Islam.


Except for the narrow military definition, (which the OBL's of the world have adopted) jihaad is a perfectly acceptable description.