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To: TobagoJack who wrote (9250)	9/14/2001 10:41:29 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Respond to of 74559

Hi Jay: some time ago, during the discussion about what's waiting for us in the crystal ball, I slapped your back saying "Come on, Jay, show some imagination". I am afraid, the black&blue patch showed at least a week, I mean, I appologize a litle late. In any case, speaking for me, I had my share of imagination for some time coming. Not that it would stop or change the events to come... Sa 4:40 AM CET dj

To: TobagoJack who wrote (9250)	9/15/2001 12:47:56 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 74559

Concerning responses: It must be recognized that the US is likely to continue to be hit with mass episodes such as last Tuesday's. The cells are large, well funded, well prepared, and essentially able to operate with impunity. In order to take them out, the US will have to set aside civil liberties to such an extent that many citizens will mount legal challenges, some of which may be successful. The unfortunate curtailment of civil liberties is the first part of an effective response. There is simply no way that they can coexist with an effective counter-terrorism program. The second part of the response will be political, i.e., pressure on friends, adversaries, and neutrals to allow the US access to intelligence, including information on financing of these groups. This should be fairly successful because, if implemented, it will be unsophisticated and brutally pragmatic. If a country doesn't cooperate, there should be no more US aid, trade, financial ties, etc. Lots of ways to skin the cat here. I know it is a double edged sword. However, the long term survival of the US as a superpower is at stake, and the US should be hamfisted if necessary. Third, the military options are obvious. Fourth, the poverty and lack of hope on the part of the dispossessed Islamic fundamentalists, including the Palestinians, must be addressed with fairness and justice. It is time for the US to use its considerable influence in a serious way to see what can be done about resolving the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians. There are lots of lessons to learn from the Romans, who were masters at running an empire effectively. The physical isolation of the US from the rest of the world has unfortunately, as Senator Thompson said yesterday, resulted in an inner-directedness after the stress of a great challenge. We turned inwards after WW I and II, concentrating on our economy and neglecting our defense because of our special geographical situation. The Atlantic and the Pacific made great moats. In the days of easy air travel, an open society, and instant secure communications, the moats just don't work. We need to become engaged and act like Romans, who were often necessarily brutal.