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To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/14/2001 9:09:47 PM
From: dangergirl	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 65232

Hi Tom Great to see you on here and read your post. I have spent some time now (this week) following this thread. I guess I trust the porchers to keep me up on what is going on, and to help me understand and get a prospective on our situation. It is a truly fightening time and one must lean on faith to try to remain calm and rational. I pray that the ones in power remain rational and sure in their decision making. regards Jamie

To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/14/2001 10:16:34 PM
From: 2sigma	Respond to of 65232

Hi V., Nice to read your thoughts and hear your spirit. Haps.

To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/14/2001 10:29:04 PM
From: Jill	Respond to of 65232

Hey V! So nice to see you post! :-)

To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/14/2001 11:07:44 PM
From: stockman_scott	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

V: It's GREAT to see you posting...Don't let anyone drive you away from the porch again. Nothing wrong with some voluntary breaks though <G>. We are in a rough new world now. THE GIANT HAS BEEN AWAKENED...I am pleased with the unity I see across our country and it's amazing Congress DOUBLED Bush's $20 Billion request -- $40 Billion is quite a down payment to launch 'Chapter 1' of this new global war on terrorism. It's important to help those in need that have been impacted by this recent set of brutal bombings. We also MUST move ahead and swiftly UPgrade our security and Intelligence gathering techniques. This will be a long, sustained campaign where the civilized nations go after radical terrorist leaders and their sponsors -- wherever they are (even if they are in our back yard). There still are some radical cells that have folks in our country and we must hunt them down -- quickly, confidently, and carefully...It's sad when I see on CNN that Arab Americans are being victimized. That SHOULD NOT be tolerated. We are just looking for the radical fundamentalists -- and some of them are here. Our FBI and CIA have been hitching rides to work for too long now. If I had to compare them to a company I might compare them to Firestone -- they are often ending up with some PAINFUL BLOWOUTS that are tough to explain. We need to transform these organizations and turn them into 'The Microsofts' of the global surveillance & law enforcement field. Notice how Microsoft continues to get stronger and re-invent itself ALL THE TIME (the U.S. Gov't can't even stop it). We will have to use some methods that at times are brutal but necessary. We know what kind of viscous methods our enemies have been using. On the other hand it is important to use ALL of our capabilities when we apply pressure on the regimes that are harboring Terrorist leaders and their cells. We must quickly learn from past mistakes and move ahead to fight our most important battle ever. The stakes are very high. Yet, I am confident that we will ultimately win. Best Regards, Scott

To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/14/2001 11:31:23 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 65232

***No Easy Battle -- The Global Intelligence Company... 2000 GMT, 010914 Message 16354320

To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/15/2001 2:37:12 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65232

Unfortunately, you are exactly right.

To: Voltaire who wrote (41689)	9/15/2001 10:31:29 AM
From: Jim Willie CB	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 65232

agreed on all counts, Tom you may underestimate my perceptions though our giant has awakened but with reluctance to lose lives in sacrifice, with reluctance to take steps involving invasion, with reluctance to reduce our civil liberties, and with clear inability to accurately assess terrorist abilities, I regard our country and our western civilization at huge risk I have mentioned many times my doubt that American resolve has much follow-thru if times become quiet in the next three months, I expect strong pressure for a return to the convenient previous ways they were and will probably return to be insecure ways last night on CNN, former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was interviewed he was clear, plain, and scarey, with loud admonitions but he was right on for had to be said he said exactly what I thought he said binLaden has been seeking nuclear capability for months he wouldnt have to search far, since Russia is only 2000 miles north 1/3 of the former Soviet nuclear arsenal is missing he warned that the US had better wake up to the enormous threat that the US had better take large steps to combat the threat that the threat would not be gone if binLaden were killed by the way, American politicians and Powell himself have begun to talk about MONEY but unfortunately, binLaden's money is safe in Saudi Arabia most of the 19 hyjackers were from Saudi Arabia I regard King Fahd as their next target his crime was allowing US Military on Saudi soil for the Gulf War yesterday I had the pleasure of lunching with a beautiful woman colleague at my firm her name is Evsen (pronounced EV-SHEN) from Turkey she is Moslem, and I might add stunning cute when she walks down the office aisle, I always ... nevermind she said the US must take steps to use the Koran for its benefit she said there is NOTHING in the Koran advocating killing or violence NOTHING in the Koran about infidels desecrating their land by their mere presence we need to use the Koran to split Moslems from terrorists there is nothing consistent between terrorist activity and the Koran teachings she is ashamed of the link between terrorists and Islam I dont underestimate this conflict ONE IOTA I see it as culminating in future years its focal point will be Jerusalem Rome's Vatican will be destroyed a false leader will emerge from Europe with strange powers worldwide security will go to the extreme all individuals will be forced to use an ID THIS WILL LEAD TO NUCLEAR WAR WITH CONFLAGRATION AND TOTAL ANNIHILATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST HOTSPOTS ALL WORLD POWERS WILL PLAY A ROLE see the Bible, the books of John, Daniel, Ezekiel the first prophesy was "Israel will become a nation" (considered an utter joke for 18 millennia) a later prophesy was "Persia will awaken" (considered a joke for 18 millennia) many many more follow who is laughing now? if American leaders see this threat as I do, much will change I see our leaders waking up finally yes, they live in Romantic thoughts, not Reality thoughts but I dont see our leaders regarding the above as real threats we believe that certain rogue countries have some nuclear material but since they lack intercontinental missiles, they are no threat wrong now we saw how airliners can deliver mass destruction what was binLaden's cost? five tickets to LA = $1200 I expect in my lifetime, and perhaps within a few years, to see NewYorkCity totally leveled unless our leaders expect that likelihood, it will happen the public pressure to be politically correct has undermined proper dealing with this threat the public pressure to avoid alarming the ignorant masses has also undermined proper dealing with this threat our entire western world was put on alert last week I have criticized by some openly and privately for alarmist views I say WAKE THE HELL UP YOUR ENTIRE WORLD MIGHT SOON GO UP IN A BIG BALL OF FIRE THESE TERRORISTS WANT TO KILL YOU, YOUR CITIES, YOUR LEADERS, YOUR INSTITUTIONS, YOUR LANDMARKS, YOUR SYMBOLS what has escaped the national news is our unending historical support for Israel we have kicked Palestine in the balls for five decades we have thus insulted and disrespected the Arab and Islamic worlds why cannot anyone talk about this link? why doesnt anyone see this as a RESUMPTION OF THE CRUSADES ? a 5-century impasse, and now a resumption behind the scenes in our psyches, in our historical motives, we are battling for Jerusalem JERUSALEM JERUSALEM JERUSALEM MY EYES ARE WIIIDDDDDE OPEN / jim