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To: Second_Titan who wrote (7906)9/14/2001 9:19:10 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 23153
 
Hi Quehubo,

We do see the world differently, now don't we? I try to point out that the world that exists isn't the one in the textbooks, and you call me a negativist. I consider myself more of a realist. Well, I have to admit, I do tend to leave the mindless cheerleading to others.

As far as your sons who are potentially at risk in a foreign war: You say we need to support the military, and I fail to see how this keeps your sons out of harm's way. The military solution is the exact one that puts them at direct risk. I fail to understand the logic of your argument. I have no children at risk, but I do recall how angry I was in 1968 when I was considering my options as an 18 year old who already understood that our involvement in SE Asia was predominantly designed to protect some commercial concessions for our corporations. I hardly saw my life as worth being sacrificed for some fat cat's profit. If I were 18 years old today, I think I'd be wondering what in the heck my government was proposing to do, sending me or my age peers into one of the nastiest, most anarchic and evil corners of the planet. And for what? To chase a man who surely will be exceptionally difficult to locate and extricate. After all, we've been trying for several years now with no success whatsoever. While sending the attack jets over Pakistan to level Kabul may be one thing, considering sending our troops over there for hand to hand combat with bandits, sharpshooters, snipers and assassins who've got centuries of local knowledge is an extremely daunting thought.

Could you not base your moral's on all of FDR's decisions?
Well, not at that moment for purposes of furthering my argument. FWIW, I admire FDR and I tend to see the justification for what he purportedly did by suppressing the information about the sneak attack. In that instance, his deception was perhaps the right tactic to move the intransigent isolationists toward engagement. I didn't, in fact, find that to be such a negative example of the government manipulating the general public. As I said, I found it morally ambiguous and relative.

I see this moral ambiguity and relativism as a clear threat to our national security.
And I simply see it as a fact of life.

-Ray