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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (76520)	9/14/2001 10:52:43 PM
From: IngotWeTrust	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116753

*So Be It.* They are indeed correct to be afraid of what I stand for and the Jews with whom I stand, unapologetic and unbowed.. I am delighted and personally gratified moderate or extremist Islamic practitioners understand me so clearly, especially when you misquoted my hardliner stance earlier. I've never told anyone they were "incapable of living in a democracy." But they need to fish or cut bait. Islam is NOT about democracy, but a different patriarchal twist on the oldest me Tarzan, you Jane belief system. Sheep and pacifists have been living here quite comfortably for years. Don't put words into my mouth. There is nothing "democratic" about the way they as a belief system treat their females, nothing at all. *PERIOD!* Nor is there anything less than eradication for the American infidels, required by Islam. They can and still have the luxury of renouncing Islam and ALL it stands for, and still save their fence straddling hides and that of their children if they want to. God has not slammed the door of the Ark shut yet. The invitation is for "whosoever will." The invitation will be withdrawn sooner than latter, and God's foot will be immoveable, and God's face turned away. The day is fast approaching for them to die for their choice, or me for mine. I can't change that, and wouldn't if I could. The decades old, honed practices of dual allegiance to god and mammon is coming to an end. I'd didn't make the invitation, and I cannot revoke it. Islams can to be blind to that "either/or", "innie/outtie", for/against Jews, sheep/goats roundup coming up. Doesn't change the day of reckoning for the meteing out of consequences to life long choices. Curly, curried, coiffed sheepskin costumes do NOT change the nature of the Islamic wolf wearing it. This line you wrote is pure BULL&PUCKEY: What you must understand is that Muslim extremists represent a social force which has, in part, spawned from the lack of social change in the Middle East. Au contraire. It is a heart condition, not a "lack of social change." That line of thinking was belched straight from the pit of Seol itself, Ron Ron. Shame on you for repeating it! Selah. End of discussion.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (76520)	9/14/2001 11:35:58 PM
From: Ahda	Respond to of 116753

I have to STRINGENTLY disagree with you. I spent the afternoon with some friends of mine who are from Afghanistan (their uncle was one of the first ambassadors to the UN for that country). <?I> Rather than think in terms of how what religion handles the law or what other nation any one came from before they came here where they believed opportunity lied. I believe none of us has seen the reincarnation of anyone who we have loved and lost. To me without my specific faith playing a part in this role. I respect all faiths providing that faith is not used to give credence to the action of destroying fellow man. In the end the law of our nation decrees that we shall not be allowed to kill others. These terrorists nineteen in number could be tried, they have Cleary disobeyed the law of our land. We do not murder people but we do protect by our laws our society from those that do. I do not feel Rose feels any differently than i do . None here can account for the time frame of the Almighty. We as mere people attempt to create as much freedom of movement for all people here in this nation as this is what we choose for out nation. There of in looking to any God considering the vast amounts of humans that exist on this earth we cannot possibly judge the time frame. I am a Christian i prefer living with Gods love yet my form of Christianity is highly diluted it is impossible for me to understand any quality to any group that could of in non business hours done precisely the same thing as they did to state their dislike for the political stance of this nation. There of regardless of religion i feel that they do not value life and we do. I can take this back to Arabs feeling we have used them i don't feel so. We have used their oil yes but as i feel here it is up to those who can afford too to address the rest in making thier funds grow. It is rather like saying i should go over and run my neighbors house their of I aid them. I do not live in my neighbors house i might spend a great deal of money on products I buy from my neighbor but in reality those dollars my neighbor gets are left to his discretion to use to create more wealth by his means. For those that hord and blame me for all the ailments in their house I ask how can i be blamed for that I have no control of. We are a visible part of this world because our nation is composed of peoples of the whole world. If our laws were not considered just in governing human actions the former sentence would not be accurate. Are you Ron Reece if so i am terribly glad to talk to you again if not i am very pleased to meet you.