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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3703)	9/15/2001 6:58:44 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 23908

Re: And guess what: That's bin Laden's program. That's exactly what he wants. That's why he did this. Read his speeches and statements. It's all right there. He really believes Islam would beat the West. It might seem ridiculous, but he figures if he can polarize the world into Islam and the West, he's got a billion soldiers. If the West wreaks a holocaust in those lands, that's a billion people with nothing left to lose; that's even better from Bin Laden's point of view. That's utter nonsense! Bin Laden, like most of his fellow Muslim gurus, wants to CONQUER the West --not destroy it. They strive to convert as many people as possible to Islam.... It might fit the agenda of Israeli, European, and Russian supremacists to brand the whole crisis as a Huntingtonian Kulturkrieg () --a West vs the Rest climax-- but the US will not endorse such a folly. The US first tried to control Afghanistan through its Pakistani point man but admittedly failed to keep a handle on its fragmented leadership (dozens of warlords...). Hence the current strategy: the US's hostile bid to acquire 100% of Afghanistan's common stock. As regards the disgraceful terrorist attacks of September 11th, the Russians and their French/European accomplices have made a MAJOR mistake... Clinton and his "Zionist" cabinet are over... hence their foolish attempt to drag the US into their anti-Arab crusade will flop. Indeed, the French and the Russians who masterminded this week's horrible bloodshed (well, they are, after all, responsible for sneaking Masood's hirelings into the US) have unwittingly crossed the "red line", that is, the security threshold beyond which any US administration can no longer fool itself about America's real enemies... President GW Bush can't get round nailing the actual mastermind, he just can't round up Bin Laden and a coupla Taleban terrorists, bring them to US Justice, and get away with it. Your article refers to WWII history and likens present-day Afghanistan to Nazi Germany... Well, fine with me but, in the same line of analogy, recall how the US dealt with Europe in the aftermath of WWII: Americans didn't run after Hitler's underlings. They demanded a Nuremberg trial, they set up NATO, demilitarized and occupied Germany, meddled in Italy's political intimacy... In short, they swayed Europe with an iron fist. A tough challenge. Time has come for GW Bush to take it up. Gus. () jya.com

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3703)	9/15/2001 10:00:23 AM
From: Carolyn	Respond to of 23908

He has a point. But I think the US should demand that Afghanistan surrender Bin Laden and ALL his cohorts to the US. Failure to do this will result in complete isolation: jamming all radio waves, nothing leaves the country, nothing gets in the country. Then we forget about them - they can live in their own misery.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (3703)	9/16/2001 4:48:05 AM
From: D. Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

Hooey. Pakistan has already caved to US demands to use its territory as a staging ground. Given a choice between having to deal with a hostile fundamentalist insurrection and a hostile United States on the warpath, Musharef chose Washington. There won't be any world war. War with whom? The moderate regimes of the middle east ride the fundamentalist whirlwind to their own demise? Not likely. Nothing but croc tears for Afghanistan. Every Arab regime would give a sigh of relief with the crushing of the Taliban, and fall over themselves providing names and addresses of fundamentalists to the United States for assassination the moment there was more than the usual bark and no bite from the fundamentalists. Derek