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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (16347)9/15/2001 3:10:11 PM
From: Brasco One  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 208838
 
<!>telecom millionaires <!>

1 billion in stock?? <g>



To: 2MAR$ who wrote (16347)9/15/2001 3:12:00 PM
From: westpacific  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 208838
 
Were do we send our money Mars, this is an excellent idea, like the wild west, lets put a bounty on these bastards heads.

West



To: 2MAR$ who wrote (16347)9/15/2001 4:08:04 PM
From: X Y Zebra  Respond to of 208838
 
I hope this isn't just frivolous PR.....

I doubt that it is just a PR move.

The act of September 11th. was not only an attack against America, the country, the land or the American people.

This attack was perpetrated upon civilization as we have, over the years built and learned to improve.

America exists because it is an ideal, a way of life, a system of free thought and free enterprise.

It is the best that humans have been capable to develop, the best example of that is the profile of this country as we are today, we come from all lands and all creeds and all colors but we are common in our goal: Freedom of thought and respect for private property. Yes, we also believe in the concept of making money, because we become self-sufficient, and we create. We are not parasites. No one should feel ashamed of that. EVER.

"America's founding ideal was the principle of individual rights. Nothing more and nothing less. The rest --everything that America achieved, everything she became, everything "noble" and "just", and heroic, and great, and unprecedented in human history-- was the logical consequence of fidelity to that one principle. The first consequence was the principle of political freedom, i.e. an individual's freedom from physical compulsion, coercion, or interference by the government. The next was the implementation of political freedom: The system of Capitalism."

["A preview" Ayn Rand Letters]


Because of the threat to this ideal, I do not believe such effort is just an act of PR. It is our livelihood that it is at risk, if we do not defend it, we do not deserve to have it

These terrorist bastards crossed the line and they will pay for it sooner or later. We cannot sit idle, or be fearful of the consequences so long we act calmly, level headed and intelligently. Yes, there will be a cost to the war, but it is better to respond in a resolute, swift and accurate action, than do nothing for "fear to fail to be compassionate"

The result of a "compassionate for our enemy" type response, will be our own destruction.

"I regard compassion as proper only towards those who are innocent victims, but not towards those who are morally guilty. If one feels compassion for the victims of a concentration camp, one cannot feel compassion for the torturers. If one does feel compassion for the torturers, it is an act of moral treason towards the victims.

["Playboy's Interview with Ayn Rand"]


By retaliating we are NOT lowering to their level, we are simply defending ourselves so to make sure this does NOT happen again.

"So long as men desire to live together, no man may initiate the use of physical force against others. When a man attempts to deal with me by force, I answer him--by force. It is only as retaliation that force may be used and only against the man who starts its use. No, I do not share his evil or sink to his concept of morality: I merely grant him his choice, destruction, the only destruction he had the right to choose: his own."

~ Ragnar Danneskjold


Our world has changed, not because we wanted it this way, this has been imposed on us, now we MUST act in a way that we will master this new environment.

Here, then, I arrive at that doctrine of human rights which seems to me to be most in accord with the inflexible and beneficient laws of nature... Of these rights there are two classes - first, those which a man (or a class of men) wrests from his environment by force; and secondly, those which he obtains by an exchange of values. ...he is exercising a right of the second class when he takes his skill and industry into the open market and sells them for whatever they will bring. .... There is, in a word, no irreducible minimum of compensation, due to every man by virtue of his mere existence as a human being. No man has any right to life, save that which he proves by mastering his environment.

~ H. L. Mencken ~


Twisted and fanatical religious beliefs are used by these animals as an excuse to justify in the eyes of their own ignorant masses their "martyrdom".

Religious beliefs are a personal matter NOT a banner to go around murdering people, nor to creat fear and guilt amongst those who have different beliefs.

The fact, however, that threats of Hell have their social uses is not an argument in favor of the truth of religion; it is simply an argument against the human race. More, it is probably libelous, for the overwhelming majority of men and women are not nearly so vicious as the fancy of theologians makes them out [to be]. Very few men, if Hell were proved to be a fiction tomorrow, would take to the highroad and cut throats, and very few women would turn drabs.

~ H. L. Mencken


Yes, the very few men who are a band of murderous bastards who executed these acts continue to use fanatical religious brainwashing to "justify" their acts.

I am angry and tired that these animals have been allowed to proliferate because we have failed in the past to respond in the appropriate way they deserve, which is to destroy them.

I WILL NEVER FEEL "REAL COMPASSION" (NOR ANY KIND OF COMPASSION) FOR THESE ANIMALS

I found these in other threads...

petitiononline.com
libertyordeath.tripod.com