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To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (9431)	9/16/2001 1:09:45 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 74559

Hi DJ- Excellent points. Hitler offered easy answers and certainty, too. So did Charlie Manson. I don't think it's possible for people who appreciate complexity to understand the drive for easy answers. My impression is that people in the US learned a lot about the search for easy answers in Viet Nam. Listen to what people are saying on SI, and then listen between the words. That's the trick, to listen between the words. They are saying, "What about me? What about my interests? What's going to happen to me?" Normal questions, more loudly and sharply stated than usual, more poignant. "Shorting the market is unAmerican. Because I am long." "Shorting the market is not unAmerican. Because I am short." "Bombing Afghanistan is a good idea. Because I don't live in Afghanistan." "Bombing Afghanistan is not a good idea. Because I have friends from Aghanistan." Is it a better idea to listen to people who are disinterested and have no stake? I don't have an easy answer. I don't believe in easy answers.

To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (9431)	9/16/2001 3:02:28 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<I am probably repeating myself, but it is so deeply ingrained in my experience:The first thing you see, when you get into the memorial building in Dachau concentration camp is a quote from Santanayana (quoted freely out of memory): "those, who are not able to learn from their past errors, are bound to repeat them".> More on this later, but your paragraph stuck me like a ton of bricks. "ingrained in 'your experience" and then of course the quote. Why does history repeat itself [or 'rhyme' as Heinz would say?]... you have answered because intellectualization is not equal to EXPERIENCE [zen practicianers help me out here... Jay?]... you can book learn all you want, but it is a different type of learning. Take the current situation in the market... why are so many making the same mistake as past bubbles, how can't people see what's happening? It's so obvious... so obvious to some they were years early in calling this! EXPERIENCE- the ones who see it really "feel" it, they have personal experience in one way or another... been managing money for a long time, been taking companies public for decades, etc etc. How can you tell the masses that wall street was just pumping that crap out because they could sell it??? You can't... but if you were there, you know.... and not like someone who you tell or explain it to... I mean YOU KNOW. DAK

To: smolejv@gmx.net who wrote (9431)	9/16/2001 10:57:57 AM
From: Terry Maloney	Respond to of 74559

US - when the weather conditions improve - could start by signing the land-mines treaty, lead the effort to get a better Kyoto treaty... Yes, that would be a good start. Perhaps now that the U.S. government is starting to see the need for allies and alliances, they might be willing to re-think their positions a bit ... The hard thing to do of course, would be to realize the inherent message, namely, there's an authority ulterior to US of A, called the world of us all That's the hard part, alright. The idea of 'world government' is anathema in many quarters, as I'm sure you know. As for Jimmy Stewart, I quite agree. Sure wish he were president right about now. <g> Best, Terry