To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (122309 ) 9/16/2001 1:26:19 PM From: Skeeter Bug Respond to of 436258 >>an your single intend is to paint terrorists as "fighters" those involved in drive by shooting or suicide bombing or even throwing stones at a car moving 50 mile per hour are intended to kill innocent people to intimidate and spread fear.<< they are using terrorism to fight for their cause. this seems self evident. one may agree or disagree with the cause and everyone ought to disagree with the methods (i sure do and you are not thinking clearly if you are saying i feel their actions are right or in any way justified. i've said repeatedly that these kinds of acts are EVIL. for you to impute some motives to me contrary to my clear english language explanation is intellectually dishonest. >>Since ancient time STONES are regarded as a killing instrument in the ME. People were and are stoned to death in Saudi Arabia Iran etc. More recently they buried a woman to her neck "so that her breasts should not be revealed" during a "stoning sentence" in those lands.<< >>There are many decent and peace loving Arab people in the West Bank and Gaza, unfortunate by murder and infighting assisted by various Islamic fundamental groups terrorist are now ruling them in tyranny with death treats summary execution and financial duress.<< agreed. however, many of those peace loving people's still feel cheated by israel, however, they have a moral code that reigns in their anger - as it should be. a moral code that the jews didn't have when they stole land nor did the americans have when they stole southern california - a place where i live. i can admit it, but, granted, there is not nearly as much tension over the so-cal theft so it is emotionally easier for me to do so. you see, i don't live in denial. it isn't all about ME and MINE. a spade is a spade, whether you see a king or not. it is what it is. >>Those Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza as are most of the Afghan people live in poverty and misery because stranger overpowered them and present themselves to the world as their leaders.<< yes, power corrupts. absolute power corrupts absolutely. there is no argument here that many leaders, spiritual and/or political, are REALLY screwed up and the lowest common denominator is winning out far too often. however, that does not mean that the other party has a license to do whatever they want and keep the halo on their head. >>In this respect the Western World caries the responsibility of their misery not the state of Israel<< gee, if the thought makes you feel better. realistically, though, life isn't that simple. lots of folks helped bring the current situation about and israel is a player in the game, too. >>No need to respond you are on ignore .......... so you can bark how much you want.<< haim, what a mature conversationalist you are. but you no better than to throw false accusations around and make it sound like you would take rocks to a gun fight b/c of historical significance. that was a lame justification, imho.