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To: Rambi who wrote (60491)	9/16/2001 9:15:35 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 71178

Shock is right. Damn, we give money to those who want to kill us. Tell Dan to take his ball bat with him from now on. I hope he never has to use it.

To: Rambi who wrote (60491)	9/16/2001 11:38:36 PM
From: jhild	Respond to of 71178

I see that the reinsurance companies started falling to short pressure starting at the beginning of September. AXA, Swiss RE, Munich RE, and Zurich RE suffered as much as 15% downturns in the days before. 30% over all. It seems that the regulators are on the trail. The airlines are really hammered by all this. I hope things go well with American. I see Continental (Gordon Bethune) talking about 50% off traffic.

To: Rambi who wrote (60491)	9/17/2001 1:15:30 AM
From: JF Quinnelly	Respond to of 71178

"Let's roll,'' Flight 93 passenger heard to say By JOANN LOVIGLIO, Associated Press Writer PHILADELPHIA (AP) - ``Are you guys ready? Let's roll!'' is an expression Todd Beamer used whenever his wife and two young sons were leaving their home for a family outing. The 32-year-old businessman and Sunday school teacher said the same thing before he and other passengers apparently took action against hijackers aboard United Airlines Flight 93 on Tuesday, shortly before the plane crashed in a western Pennsylvania field. The jetliner, which government officials suspect was headed for a high-profile target in Washington, was the fourth to crash in a coordinated terrorist attack that killed thousands, and the only one that didn't take lives on the ground. ``He was gentle by nature, he was also very competitive, and he wouldn't stand for anyone being hurt,'' said Beamer's wife, Lisa, who was told of his last words by an operator who spoke to him. ``Knowing that he helped save lives by bringing that plane down ... it brings joy to a situation where there isn't much to be found.'' Todd Beamer placed a call on one of the Boeing 757's on-board telephones and spoke for 13 minutes with GTE operator Lisa D. Robinson, Beamer's wife said. He provided detailed information about the hijacking and - after the operator told him about the morning's World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks - said he and others on the plane were planning to act against the terrorists aboard. ``They may have realized that (the hijackers) were planing to do the same thing with their plane,'' Beamer said Sunday in a telephone interview from her Hightstown, N.J., home. ``So they chose to do what they could to prevent other people from being hurt.'' Before the call ended and with yelling heard in the background, Todd Beamer asked the operator to pray with him. Together, they recited the 23rd Psalm. Then he asked Robinson to promise she would call his wife of seven years - who is expecting a third child - and their two sons, ages 1 and 3. After receiving clearance from investigators, Robinson kept her promise Friday. ``People asked me if I'm upset that I didn't speak with him, but I'm glad he called (Robinson) instead,'' Lisa Beamer said. ``I would have been helpless. And I know what his last words would have been to me, anyway.'' Beamer said her husband placed the call at 9:45 a.m. Tuesday and told Robinson that there were three knife-wielding hijackers on board, one who appeared to have a bomb tied to his chest with a belt. The other two hijackers took over the cockpit after forcing the pilot and co-pilot out. The jet was bobbing and changed course several times; the passengers knew they would never land in San Francisco. ``They realized they were going to die. Todd said he and some other passengers were going to jump on the guy with the bomb,'' Lisa Beamer said. Several other passengers made phone calls from the jet before it crashed southeast of Pittsburgh: Jeremy Glick, 31; Mark Bingham, 31; and Thomas Burnett Jr. 38. Glick and Burnett said they were going to do something. Todd Beamer dropped the phone after talking to Robinson, leaving the line open. It was then that the operator heard Beamer's words: ``Let's roll.'' Then silence. Shortly afterwards, the plane crashed, killing all 45 aboard. ``Some people live their whole lives, long lives, without having left anything behind,'' Lisa Beamer said. ``My sons will be told their whole lives that their father was a hero, that he saved lives. It's a great legacy for a father to leave his children.''