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To: lorne who wrote (76706)	9/16/2001 10:43:28 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 116752

Gold prices hit all-time high in Pakistan. brecorder.com

To: lorne who wrote (76706)	9/16/2001 11:21:26 PM
From: GST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116752

lorne: The issue is, "what constitutes an effective set of actions?" Terrorists need supporters, followers, and money. I would go after the money first, the supporters second and try not to increase the supply of followers in the process. Revenge, in the narrow sense of killing, won't work. It increases the number of followers without doing much to discourage the supporters or cutting off the money. Bin Laden is a CIA trained operative -- he needs alot of money to do what he does. Shut down "Bin Laden incorporated" -- every last cent -- and he can do far less. Then begin to shut down the finances of his supporters, every last cent -- and they will rethink their support. IMO, killing, if that is the primary action, only makes martyrs out of the dead. Feeding the cycle of hatred and death does not solve our problem or help us to obtain national security. Bin Laden is counting on us taking the path of killing and hatred -- that is what he needs us to do to help him win by creating a "holy war".

To: lorne who wrote (76706)	9/17/2001 1:23:19 AM
From: Richnorth	Respond to of 116752

Well, give it a try, by all means. The problem is whether you can really get away with it scot-free. You are probably right in that we have a dilemma: if we kill him, his henchmen and followers will kill some more Americans in revenge and, if we get to keep him alive in captivity, his men will keep on killing until he is released. But will this ever happen? I don't have any clear-cut answers. Well, I suppose the obvious thing to do is to keep on trying until something clicks. Methinks the prez and Colin Powell should not have "advertised" their plan of action. Instead they should have simply assured the American public that big plans are afoot to get the guilty parties and more. And then get down to business seriously. Meantime the enemy will be left in the dark wondering and wondering what's gonna happen to them. Also, this way high officials in Afghan and Paki lands may be bribed bigtime into delivering Bin Ladin sooner than later. As it is, Bin Ladin has been spooked and it is now probably more difficult to get him. It is entirely possible that before the US gets into action in Pakistan, a coup there may occur which is anti-US and this will make things difficult. But, of course, that is pure speculation. Trouble is no matter how the US feel that might is right, it will be bothered by world opinion even though that doesn't seem to be a problem at this time. For now, let's hope that the government's plan will succeed sooner than later.