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To: Elmer who wrote (143594)	9/17/2001 5:31:53 PM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 186894

You don't like it, I don't like it but Ahmed is sure glad we're afraid to be politically incorrect. ---------------- Not necessarily true. Contrary to what you think, maybe "Ahmed" believes he will be safer if airport security scrutinizes people more. RE: "I think this notion of Political Correctness is absurd. " When you dismiss racism by saying Political Correctness is absurd, you unintentionally equate murder to a matter of Political Correctness. (I know you weren't doing this, but it unintentionally rings of it.) Saying this is a matter of Political Correctness, denies what is going on here, it dismisses the innocent life that was lost this weekend. A gas station attendant wasn't killed because the murderer wasn't being (your words) Politically Correct. But rather, because people are becoming racist and blindly hurting and now killing innocent people that are protected by our laws. Even Bush has made a plea about this. The issue is when some few people are horribly mean to innocent Muslims/Arabs, when they kill an innocent gas attendent because of his religion, or when a child suddenly loses their school friends because her/his name is Muslim. This is the point. I've got to get back to work. We have shipments missing. I'm told shipments on the order of 25% of our company's entire monthly burn rate, is somewhere missing in Manhattan. I'm not kidding. This is a big deal for a startup too. Anything that negatively impacts cash flow in such a major way is. But if we lose this particular batch of product revenue here, as a result of our products being scrutinized by authorities (unlikely scenario, but to make a point), I will be happy that this country is carefully scrutinizing shipments to ensure everyone's safety. Amy J

To: Elmer who wrote (143594)	9/17/2001 5:55:31 PM
From: fingolfen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

We all want to fight this kind of ignorance(hopefully) but the disturbing fact remains that under our current system, even in this state of war, at an airport or rail station etc a young nervous Arab looking person by the name of Ahmed with an Afgan passport can not be considered any higher risk than a little old lady from Toledo. To do so would be racist. In this time of emergency I think this notion of Political Correctness is absurd. The unpleasant fact is that people of far higher risk can be to some extent identified by sight and to ignore that fact is exactly the kind of weakness terrorists seek to exploit. You don't like it, I don't like it but Ahmed is sure glad we're afraid to be politically incorrect. Elmer, you're missing the point and making unwarranted assumptions. This isn't about political correctness, and using "Down with PC" as a rallying cry is only going to make an already tense situation worse. Someone with a Afghani, Syrian, Egyptian, Iranian, Pakistani, Libyan, etc. passport most likely SHOULD be considered a higher risk. I support that, and I honestly think it's going on to some degree. Someone named Ahmed with an American passport, however, should not be. That is the line that must be recognized and respected. Ali said in his original post, "Even in camps or schools. Therefore the fact of public victorious manifestations gives me the right to conclude that their whole society is seriously sick, and has to be contained or cured by all available means." Note he says "their whole society," please tell me how that is not racist and is merely being politically incorrect. Let's take this a bit closer to home. What about the scores of religious conservatives who tacitly approve of the murder of an abortion provider? Someone used the "cockroach theory" earlier saying where you see five there are many in the background. Should we start profiling Baptists using the same logic? A lot of people seem to be unwilling or unable to draw the line between three distinct groups: Group 1, the small minority of militant fanatics who perpetrated these crimes against humanity. Group 2, the countless other citizens in those areas or of that nationality who at the very least did not approve, and others still who were revolted by such barbarity. Group 3, American citizens who share a common national ancestry or overall religion with Groups 1 and 2. It is not "PC" to protect groups 2 and 3, it is supporting basic human (and in the case of Group 3, Constitutional) rights. Group 1 is a perfectly valid and moral target. America is one of the best educated nations on earth, and we should be able to draw these lines. If we don't, we're acting just like the fanatics who attacked us. They were attacking "America" because of perceived injustices. Some of those may be real. Some may be illusionary. They, however, did not attack the individuals who had caused them grief... they attacked the "American Race." Too many words in recent days sound far too much like the fanaticism of the terrorists themselves. America has far more to fear from internal fanaticism and "mob rule" than it does from external terrorism. It took the terrorists years of planning and vast financial resources to hit three prominent landmarks... America can debase itself for free... and apparently in short order...