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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (55683)9/17/2001 10:08:05 PM
From: Ronald AshkenazyRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
"...plans may be further advanced than hitherto suspected."

theinquirer.net

AMD-Intel battle takes techie twist

SMP and SMT the grounds
By Mike Magee, 17/09/2001 09:50:58 BST

THE TANTALISING WORDS Intel used about its Jackson simultaneous multi-threading (SMT) at its Developer Forum last month seem to hint at a Holy Grail which may or may not be realised in the near future.
But the significance of SMT, and for that matter symmetric multiprocessing (SMP), to Intel cannot be understated, particularly since the chip giant has acquired Compaq (DEC) engineers who already have implemented some aspects of the technology in the Alpha chip.

Because it appears that the architects at AMD, headed by Dirk Meyer who had a leading role in designing the Alpha, could well be ahead of Chipzilla in implementing some advanced technology in the future Sledgehammer microprocessor.

One little noticed announcement by Intel at the end of August appointed four new fellows at the chip company - senior engineers and managers who came from the Alpha background.

AMD is expected to unveil some elements of its hitherto hush-hush architecture at the Microprocessor Forum later this autumn, but existing documents by chip architects indicate that the plans may be further advanced than hitherto suspected.

At last year's Forum, Big Blue said it would incorporate four CPU cores into one package, with each of them communicating with each other, and there are some hints that AMD may do a similar thing with Hammer technology.

There are several ways of implementing parallelism on a computer and, theoretically at least, SMT appears to be the favoured route. Nevertheless, putting CPU cores together, according to one paper by distinguished architects, can achieve quite a large performance hit - perhaps as much as 70 per cent.

AMD therefore may be able to produce a Hammer chip that can deliver three times the performance of Athlon technology - something that CEO Jerry Hammers claimed was possible as long ago as spring last year.

At the same keynote, Sanders also indicated that AMD first and foremost wants the Hammer family to be the fastest possible core for 32-bit code - adding X64 as additional fuel.

We now expect Clawhammer to offer serious performance competition to Intel processors while SledgeHammer - which according to some will sample in November, may well include some of the features architects appear to think will give microprocessors an extra edge.

How far away Intel is from its SMT implementation is currently unknown, but having both Alpha and for that matter PA-RISC architects on board mean serious technology jumps ahead on its side.

To understand SMT and SMP technology, it is worth looking at these publicly available documents here and here. The first, with illustrations, is an IEEE document.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (55683)9/17/2001 11:50:29 PM
From: AK2004Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
Ten
if you're trying to say that the thing are not as rosy as they were 2 quarters back then you're right. If you look at amd business over 5 year period then you would see steady improvements. You can not say the same for intel.
Regards
-Albert