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To: Jill who wrote (204)9/17/2001 11:38:35 PM
From: OWN STOCK  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Jill:

First of all we are not down 10%. That would be down over 900.

To be precise, it was 8.5%, or 10% for round numbers. It will get there and beyond tomorrow.

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Why would they want to bring capitalism down when it makes them so much $?

Because it could only bring bin Lauden money, and he has more than enough. He lives in caves. I have no doubt word leaked out. Some took advantage. I don't know about you, but I would not kill myself for money. He could not recruit what amounts to the bulk of the Islamic world to that end. I give him and his cause much more credit than that. Talk about oversimplification!

I'm not sure why you ask if I'm American

Because you made the statement that my call to financial arms was exactly what other people of the world hate in Americans. I was trying to determine your basis for making the statement. Since you are American, I believe it has no basis, and is an assertion, mere rhetoric. I make the counter assertion it is exactly what the world admires in Americans.



To: Jill who wrote (204)9/18/2001 12:32:44 AM
From: SirRealist  Respond to of 281500
 
Re: Oil as the reason... In the 8/96 Declaration of War against the US, Bin Laden laid it out clearly (and, btw, demonstrated hypocrisy against his supposed religiosity, as Islamic teachings about jihad indicate that material wealth and matters are to be abandoned for jihad):

From his 'Declaration'...
>>5Destruction of the oil industries. The presence of the USA Crusader military forces on land, sea and air of the states of the Islamic Gulf is the greatest danger threatening the largest oil reserve in the world. The existence of these forces in the area will provoke the people of the country and induces aggression on their religion, feelings and prides and push them to take up armed struggle against the invaders occupying the land; therefore spread of the fighting in the region will expose the oil wealth to the danger of being burned up. The economical interest of the States of the Gulf and the land of the two Holy Places will be damaged and even a greater damage will be caused to the economy of the world. I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the battle as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and Grace. We also warn the aggressors, the USA, against burning this Islamic wealth (a crime which they may commit in order to prevent it, at the end of the war, from falling in the hands of its' legitimate owners and to cause economical damages to the competitors of the USA in Europe or the Far East, particularly Japan which is the major consumer of the oil of the region).<<
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I note that he never mentioned Iraq's oil-burning retreat from Kuwait in the Gulf War, but then, hypocrisy and inconsistency are evident in all he says and does.



To: Jill who wrote (204)9/18/2001 12:32:44 AM
From: SirRealist  Respond to of 281500
 
Re: Oil as the reason... In the 8/96 Declaration of War against the US, Bin Laden laid it out clearly (and, btw, demonstrated hypocrisy against his supposed religiosity, as Islamic teachings about jihad indicate that material wealth and matters are to be abandoned for jihad):

From his 'Declaration'...
>>5Destruction of the oil industries. The presence of the USA Crusader military forces on land, sea and air of the states of the Islamic Gulf is the greatest danger threatening the largest oil reserve in the world. The existence of these forces in the area will provoke the people of the country and induces aggression on their religion, feelings and prides and push them to take up armed struggle against the invaders occupying the land; therefore spread of the fighting in the region will expose the oil wealth to the danger of being burned up. The economical interest of the States of the Gulf and the land of the two Holy Places will be damaged and even a greater damage will be caused to the economy of the world. I would like here to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the nation, to protect this (oil) wealth and not to include it in the battle as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and Grace. We also warn the aggressors, the USA, against burning this Islamic wealth (a crime which they may commit in order to prevent it, at the end of the war, from falling in the hands of its' legitimate owners and to cause economical damages to the competitors of the USA in Europe or the Far East, particularly Japan which is the major consumer of the oil of the region).<<
vitrade.com

I note that he never mentioned Iraq's oil-burning retreat from Kuwait in the Gulf War, but then, hypocrisy and inconsistency are evident in all he says and does.