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To: Thomas M. who wrote (3914)	9/18/2001 6:06:16 AM
From: chalu2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23908

I think it is high time to put this Chomsky controversy to rest, and to expose Chomsky for what he is. In short, Chomsky is a liar, a psychotic, an anti-semitic Jew, or all three. Here is what Chomsky said about the repulsive Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson: "Let me add a final remark about Faurisson's alleged "anti-Semitism." Note first that even if Faurisson were to be a rabid anti-Semite and fanatic pro-Nazi -- such charges have been presented to me in private correspondence that it would be improper to cite in detail here -- this would have no bearing whatsoever on the legitimacy of the defense of his civil rights. On the contrary, it would make it all the more imperative to defend them since, once again, it has been a truism for years, indeed centuries, that it is precisely in the case of horrendous ideas that the right of free expression must be most vigorously defended; it is easy enough to defend free expression for those who require no such defense. Putting this central issue aside, is it true that Faurisson is an anti-Semite or a neo-Nazi? As noted earlier, I do not know his work very well. But from what I have read -- largely as a result of the nature of the attacks on him -- I find no evidence to support either conclusion. Nor do I find credible evidence in the material that I have read concerning him, either in the public record or in private correspondence. As far as I can determine, he is a relatively apolitical liberal of some sort. In support of the charge of anti-Semitism, I have been informed that Faurisson is remembered by some schoolmates as having expressed anti-Semitic sentiments in the 1940s, and as having written a letter that some interpret as having anti-Semitic implications at the time of the Algerian war. I am a little surprised that serious people should put such charges forth -- even in private -- as a sufficient basis for castigating someone as a long-time and well-known anti-Semitic. I am aware of nothing in the public record to support such charges. I will not pursue the exercise, but suppose we were to apply similar standards to others, asking, for example, what their attitude was towards the French war in Indochina, or to Stalinism, decades ago. Perhaps no more need be said. abbc.com Here is a sample (probably the least noxious example) of Faurisson's nauseating Holocaust denials, which predate Chomsky's absolution of this demon as an "apolitical liberal": I assert, in fact, that these famous alleged homicidal "gas chambers" are nothing but a tall story of wartime. This invention of wartime propaganda is comparable to the widespread legends of the First World War about "Teutonic barbarism." The Germans were then already accused (in the First World War) of completely imaginary crimes; of Belgian children with hands cut off; crucified Canadians; corpses turned into soap.[1] The Germans, I suppose, said similar things about the French. German concentration camps did really exist but the whole world knows that they were not original or unique to the Germans. Crematorium ovens have also existed in certain of these camps, but incineration is no more offensive or criminal than burial. My estimation is as follows: First, the number of Jews exterminated by the Nazis (or: "victims of genocide") is happily equivalent to zero. Second, the number of Europeans killed by acts of war (often by atrocious acts of war) could be in the order of 40 millions; among them the proportion of European Jews could be somewhere in the order of one million, but more likely, several hundred thousands if one does not count those Jews fighting in the uniforms of military allies -- I insist on the fact that, as far as I am concerned, it is an estimate without proper scientific character. Moreover, I have good enough reason to think that the figure of the dead at Auschwitz (Jews and non-Jews) amounts to around 50,000 and not to 4 million, as has been pretended for a long time. (This was before the Institute of Contemporary History in Munich decided to content themselves with one million as the accepted figure.) You can read the complete Nazi tome here: ihr.org Of course, I do not wish to censor Chomsky. To expose the evil in a man's words and acts by writing of them is not to censor, as I think even Chomsky would agree.

To: Thomas M. who wrote (3914)	9/18/2001 6:31:42 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23908

Looks like some Russian Mafiya bosses cashed in on their inside information... (the Russian Mafiya might have been used as a conduit to sneak the hijackers into the US) Were Terrorists Short-Selling? Regulators Look at Pre-Attack Stock Trades William Drozdiak Washington Post Service Tuesday, September 18, 2001 BRUSSELS Stock market regulators in Europe and Japan said Monday they were investigating whether groups connected with the U.S. terror bombings sought to reap windfall profits from the tragedy by dumping shares of airlines and insurance companies in advance of the attacks. Financial authorities in Europe said their scrutiny of suspicious stock sales before the attacks last Tuesday were part of a broader inquiry into the global financial dealings of Osama bin Laden, the Islamic radical regarded as the likely mastermind of the assaults. [snip] iht.com New York hosts the Mafiya's largest foreign subsidiary: russiajournal.com