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To: Dan3 who wrote (143756)	9/18/2001 5:27:30 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 186894

Dan, <SOI taking Motorola from 400MHZ to 1600MHZ in barely a year> The G4 was supposed to hit 1 GHz a long time ago, and Motorola couldn't get there. That's why they are now pinning all hopes on SOI as the "great savior," which only increases the potential for disappointment. Sound familiar to another semiconductor company who's far behind on the speed curve? Tenchusatsu

To: Dan3 who wrote (143756)	9/18/2001 5:30:59 PM
From: Monica Detwiler	Respond to of 186894

Dan3 - You wrote SOI taking Motorola from 400MHZ to 1600MHZ in barely a year: The 64 bit G5 uses 26w at 1.4GHZ - Itanic comparisons invited ...Our source had no word on what process Motorola will use for the part, but we reckon 0.13 micron with copper interconnects. You have committed a simple error - the Motorola part will be made on a 0.13 micron process - yet you try to compare it to a 0.18 micron aluminum Itanium device. Maybe you should wait for Intel's 0.13 micron version of the Itanium (don't recall part name) before you jump to another wrong conclusion. Monica

To: Dan3 who wrote (143756)	9/18/2001 5:35:21 PM
From: wanna_bmw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan, Re: "SOI taking Motorola from 400MHZ to 1600MHZ in barely a year" Yeah, and Intel's .18u manufacturing processor took them from 600MHz to 2GHz in just under 2 years. Wait, did I forget to mention that they had to double the pipeline to make this possible, just like Motorola had to double their pipeline (hint: G5 has twice the pipeline length of the previous G4)? The G5 will probably also use smaller manufacturing, according to the article you liked to. Don't you think that may help a bit? Just how much is actually due to SOI? I'm sure you'd like to offer a guess. wanna_bmw