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To: schrodingers_cat who wrote (131462)	9/19/2001 10:18:46 AM
From: Oeconomicus	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164684

OT: I don't think bin Laden ever went hungry. Again, you misunderstood. I was talking about the Afghan people who live in fear of the Taliban, who send their sons to become Talib so at least they know they will be fed. I was not talking about bin Laden or his agents and recruits. Why do educated, middle and upper class young men join up with bin Laden and commit mass murder and suicide at his command? I don't know. But one could ask the same thing about Japanese youth and the doomsday cult that released nerve gas in Tokyo subways. And what about US cults that have committed mass suicide or mass murder? Weren't Charles Manson's followers raised in ordinary American families? Don't their middle and upper class parents also say "we never saw any indication" or "we gave her everything she wanted - it can't be true". To some degree, the most extreme of these groups seem to operate like cults rather than paramilitary groups motivated by political objectives. OTOH, some like the Taliban operate like many totalitarian regimes in history. The motivation of the average Agfhan boy in joining the Taliban is probably not any different from the average German boy joining the Nazi Youth in the 1930's. What drives a middle class Lebanese twenty-something who wanted to fly since he was five to realize that dream in one suicidal flight into the WTC? We may never know. Bob

To: schrodingers_cat who wrote (131462)	9/19/2001 3:09:10 PM
From: craig crawford	Respond to of 164684

there are many reasons why americans are hated around the world. it's not only jealousy about our success and lifestyle, although that certainly is a part of it. one reason is that our government uses it's economic and military might to pursue a course that may be beneficial for politicians and even ourselves as american citizens, but at the expense of others who challenge our authority. essentially the big bully theory. we have made numerous enemies around the globe by waging a war--but always on our terms. the terrorists have little in the way of economic or military might, so they resort to barbaric acts such as the one we just witnessed in order to engage in war on their terms. i am not justifying the actions taken by the terrorists, i am only stating the reality of the situation. we've been at war long before a week ago tuesday. i also do not justify the acts of terrorism committed by our government. of course when our government committs acts of atrocity upon innocent civilians it quickly gets swept under the rug. i think the terrorists were quite successful in ensuring that their acts of atrocity will never be forgotten or taken lightly. mission accomplished.