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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: joseph krinsky who wrote (4116)	9/19/2001 6:14:48 PM
From: Elmer Flugum	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 27666

Why remains the question. Americans don't like to lose or be made to look as if they have been duped. What has the special interest, controlled American government done to them?

To: joseph krinsky who wrote (4116)	9/20/2001 4:14:25 AM
From: CountofMoneyCristo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27666

Message 16381538 they didn't make asses out of us, they murdered 6000 people. they didn't "moon" us, they murdered 6000 people. this wasn't a college prank, they murdered 6000 people. 6000 people, from all over the world, men women and children. This post of yours says it all my friend. Though I have empathy for many in the Middle East who are suffering and now likely to suffer much more in at least the near-term - the shots of Afghani women covered head-to-toe in cloth sitting mentally deranged from beatings and other abuse by the side of a highway, two Afghani brothers not more than 3-5 years old starving, looking in despair at the camera, these are heart-breaking and crushingly sad - we have to hit back and hit back VERY hard. I don't believe these terrorists are insane, but they are surely delusionary and we need to stomp them hard enough that they drop their wild plans of world domination. When we're done, we absolutely must show more concern for the millions of people the West has woefully neglected for so long. They look to us for help. Now is a very good time to remember that the line between love and hate is oftentimes a very thin one. Some of what I have heard here makes me sick: I wonder what kind of response America would be getting if an American white supremacist group hijacked an airliner full of mullahs from Damascus and flew it into Mecca on the holiest day of the year, killing 5-10,000 people. I wonder if many in the Middle East would say, as we have, "Those responsible are an aberration and most Americans are good people." No, somehow I think the reaction would be quite different indeed. For now we need to hit the people responsible and massively. I think there is no question this means that we should destroy institutions sponsoring terrorism (some, but not all, are governments) in Sudan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Yemen. The rest - for instance Iran and a few others - are warned they will also be targeted if they don't clean up the sewers immediately. The more I consider what happened and what we face the more I believe the best thing we can do in our first strike is to hit all of these places simultaneously and massively in various ways, and I am not talking carpet-bombing. We need to re-establish fear of the reach of the United States as a deterrent to further attacks. The first strike needs to be very public so it makes a political and military statement. Thereafter this war may be largely in the shadows, but enemies of free peoples will understand the message. Lobbing those missiles in 1998 only made enemies laugh, and it gravely damaged the value of deterrence. I think the President understands this clearly with his comment about $2 million missiles taking out $10 tents. Hardly cost-effective. Talk of not rebuilding the Twin Towers I believe is simply awful. These buildings must be rebuilt and as quickly as possible. If we do not rebuild them, then we have allowed our enemies an enormous victory, the power to sit as architect of one of our greatest cities. I heard one pundit say it would be folly because we cannot protect tall buildings. I wonder then, which capitulation is next? "Operation Infinite Justice." The words inspire confidence. I believe our government is handling this crisis very well, with great leadership.