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To: VisionsOfSugarplums who wrote (8468)9/19/2001 11:52:48 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 24910
 
however I can't help but think that if the U.S. dollar cracks, there's a substantial population in the world that will benefit from what would then be lower prices (to them) which would effectively stimulate those economies and some demand.

Good point. ahh! more research....
Thanks



To: VisionsOfSugarplums who wrote (8468)9/20/2001 11:37:23 AM
From: SofaSpud  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24910
 
Good points, tw. A couple of thoughts. It's been suggested that one of the reasons that prices have remained firm is that China has increased it's demand for imported oil by a significant amount. That's helped keep the pressure off OPEC. OPEC unity tends to flag when their revenues decline, as it's easier to wrap your head around the cash flow implications of cheating on your quota than reducing production and hoping that reduced supply will increase prices. Now, if you look at the latest trade figs, they're dismal. Japan's imports declined a further 3.6% in August. How much of that hits China, and therefore feeds into Chinese oil demand? U.S. trade declined an annualized 18% during the first half of this year -- what are the implications of that for oil demand? I would suggest that we will shortly see an oil-demand environment that will give OPEC unity its biggest challenge since the cuts in March '99. Will they be up to it? If the world economy is tanking as badly as some of these trade figures suggest, I rather doubt it. We may well see $10 oil before we see $30, subject of course to military developments.

Your point about the U.S. dollar is well taken. I would point out, however, that a weaker dollar reduces revenue to oil producers, which will be one more straw for the OPEC camel.

I don't mean to be all gloom and doom. We all learned how reliable the data tend to be. Even if the data are accurate, the silver lining is the sharper and faster the drop, the sooner it's over with. Like what's happening with the markets. The grind over the past couple of years has been horrid to live with. If we knock another thousand or two off the Dow this fall, and it lances the boil, then '02 might be the first decent year in a while. Let's just get on with it.