This interview frames the issues of who we are dealing with.
I believe that any person who utters the words of jihad against the US should be considered combatants who are part of those who have declared war on the US.
Let Us Show We Have the Will
Michael Savage hosts the Savage Nation, America's
fastest-growing syndicated radio show. Last week,
Michael interviewed former Israeli Prime Minister
Binyamin Netanyahu.
Part II of his interview follows.
Read Part I of interview.
SAVAGE:
Mr. Netanyahu, in the Jerusalem Post you wrote about a
comparison with Nazism. As we all know, that phrase is
thrown around, but you wrote an interesting paragraph:
"the only way to fully understand," you write, "is to recall
the effects of another hateful ideology, Nazism, which
also started as a local movement and which in just a few
years became a world force." But there is a difference.
The Germans were not willing to blow themselves up
with munitions, were they?
NETANYAHU:
Well, that's correct, and this is what makes this even
more frightening. The fact is that there is a particular
pathology, a pathological string here, that these people
foster suicide bombings. By the way, a lot of credit
should go to Yasser Arafat for that, because his
PLO-controlled areas, the areas under his control,
foster this. They actually have summer camps, believe it
or not, Michael, summer camps for Palestinian children
to teach them to become suicide bombers.
SAVAGE:
Unbelievable.
NETANYAHU:
They even have films to show them this technique, and
it is obviously infectious and Osama bin Laden has
borrowed from this very liberally. Just as Arafat
pioneered the art of bombing aircraft and kidnappings
and hijacking. He bombed the first aircraft in the
Jordanian desert in 1970. He's gone to Americans,
including two weeks ago in Jerusalem, he bombed
Americans and killed them. All of this doesn't stop him,
and you see him donating blood for America. It's
extraordinary.
SAVAGE:
OK, the last question for you is this: We knew that in
World War II the kamikazes were also willing to die for
their cause, the Japanese kamikazes, and they did not
stop until two atomic bombs were dropped on their
homeland. And those who supplied them, who trained
them, who gave them the weaponry stopped supplying
the weapons and the plans. That's when the kamikazes
stopped. Is that a similar analogy to today?
NETANYAHU:
Well, I think that the kamikazes were defeated when you
sent the aircraft carriers in to the Battle of the Coral Sea.
It turns out the problem was of the home states fighting
it out, you're right. I think your question about the
suicide bombings is important, because whatever you
say about the Communists, they didn't have Communist
suicide bombers. You never had that. The question is,
will deterrence work here? Will deterrence work to
dismantle the home states that make the aircraft carrier,
that make the launching of these attacks possible? I
believe that in the final calculation we cannot rely on
deterrence alone. You could with the Soviets, you
couldn't with the Nazis. Even though they didn't have
suicide bombers, as long as the Hitlerian doctrine lived,
and Hitler lived, nothing would have stopped them.
Nothing until he was crushed, which was in fact what
finally happened.
I think the same thing is true of this militant branch of
Islamic terrorism. Unless its forces are crushed, its
weapons of death, especially its weapons of mass
destruction, are dismantled, we cannot, and this is the
great challenge that lies today.
The enemies of freedom, the supporters of dictators
and tyrants and terrorists are celebrating. They're
dancing in the Palestinian areas, in Gaza and Ramallah,
they're dancing on the roof tops in Beirut and Baghdad.
And the champions of democracy are grieving, they are
grieving in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, they're grieving in
Washington and New York, and in Rome and in London
and Madrid. So now what we have to do is have all the
citizens of democratic countries rally behind a global
effort by the United States to lead the free world in
defending its lives and protecting our future against this
terror network. It must be taken apart. If we don't take
them apart, they will destroy us. We have the time. Now
we must show we have the will.
SAVAGE:
So unity is the ultimate message. Unity, and we must
stand behind President Bush – ultimately, that's the best
thing we can do.
NETANYAHU:
Unity of purpose and determination not to allow
terrorism to exist in the world. We have to eradicate
terrorism the way that the great civilized powers
eradicated piracy in the 19th century and Nazism in the
20th century. We have to say terrorism is out. Anyone
who practices terrorism or supports terrorism or who
gives them a safe haven, we are going to take them out.
And unless we do so, given the advancing development
of nuclear weapons, we will not be able to do so
tomorrow and our civilization is in peril.
I have no doubt that this is understood in Washington
by President Bush. I have no doubt that given the
backing of the American people and the free people
around the world, that the United States will achieve the
dismantling of terrorism.
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