To: gg cox who wrote (1453 ) 9/20/2001 5:44:01 PM From: LeonardSlye Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8273 "We are they.". I've long held that conviction. With me, I think it has it's roots in reading the caption, "We have met the enemy and they is us" in Pogo as a kid. It just made perfect sense from either side. It became famous. One of the things that brought this truism from a comic strip back to me was when I once introduced a middle class Serbian refugee to a Croatian war veteran who had lost everything in the war while he was in the front lines. They were both English students of mine and I knew how much they needed the lessons...they had families. I wasn't about to give up either one of them. These were people who had secret signs to challenge each other because they couldn't tell friend from foe by their appearance or language (much like the Irish). A marriage between them is called a mixed marriage, believe it or not. This was at the height of their hostilities. They would have had to try to kill each other if they were in their homeland. There was no doubt who would have won, Milan had just spent 2 years in the front lines and afterward was in the Special Police. He never spoke of the killing he had done, but you could see it in him. He was a troubled, haunted man. I introduced each of them as my friend--stressing the word--and through their common friendship for me, they got along, very uneasily at first, but after a while it became a real friendship with one looking out for the other, and explaining things to each other. They went through a huge barrier to get there. I get misty just thinking about it. I used to think that "You learn as much from your students as they do from you" was just an empty platitude, it's not. Happy Trails, Lenny